#4288733 - 08/19/16 04:31 PM
Re: Update 2.003
[Re: Sokol1]
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Nice to see ya Jason Looks like things are going to start moving in a direction that will make many folks happy. Even though CLOD was considered a "bomb" it still had over 200k in units sold. With IL-2 1946 at about the 220k range before it according to Steamspy. My point is, anything that moves in a direction to get back some of the 200,000 hardcore ravenous IL-2 fans would be a good thing. They are out there and can probably be brought back with some changes. I bought BOS but held off on BOM for many of the reasons a lot of us share...but will be keeping an eye out now after not even checking on the progress of this sim for months. Best of luck Jason!
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#4288776 - 08/19/16 07:06 PM
Re: Update 2.003
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You should be more mad at Oleg Maddox for how CLOD was mismanaged. Talk about empty promises Really? This is your advice? Not advice just a comment. Jason Well let me give you some advice then Jason. If you want me to support this game do not make these comments. It does no good, unless you need to work through the anger you have for Maddox. But doing this privately might be best. Just need to say. As a potential customer LOL My anger at Maddox? Oh man are you guys don't know me at all. You'll see just how bad a person I am. LOL Nobody has alluded to you being a bad person and what type of a person you are is rather irrelevant. When you post under a company's name I'm more interested in the product you are offering. And when a company tries to point out the positives in their product by pointing out the negatives of a competing product, this does not encourage me in any way to buy what is being offered
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#4288789 - 08/19/16 07:43 PM
Re: Update 2.003
[Re: Sokol1]
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Was CloD's lifespan terminated in favor of BoS? Of course. Was it because despite the CloD team bravely fighting on against insurmountable odds it was sabotaged by a knife in the back from 777? Uh...no. They'd already made their bed, lay in it, soiled it, got up, changed the sheets with others that were already dirty, lay in that, soiled it again... I can't picture any scenario where that BoM was really going to come about. Either 777 was coming in with 1CGS as we had, or Il-2 as a franchise was calling it a day. They blew it, it was blown, 1C was never giving them a chance to blow it again. "But they SAID they were working..." Yeah, they SAID. I can't imagine they believed that, and if they did they were gullible to believe 1C when it told them. There was no corporate confidence in that setup anymore. Whatever your opinion of the final product as patched before the mods started, it took a seriously botched launch and 18 months of free post-launch work (as in it wasn't accompanying DLC/expansions/planes/whatever) to get CloD to that state. 1C had to lose money on it, or at the least they made a profit vastly lower than their projections. Corporations don't just shrug their shoulders and say "oh well". If you invest say $10 million and make less than $11+ million, what was the point? Could just invest your money in stocks and bonds and get a better return than a drawn out product cycle that led nowhere. It was never going to happen, the work that was done was just filler until that last update was out and then it was pink slips and don't scratch the door when it hits you on the way out because we'll take it out of your severance. There are plenty of decisions I've blamed the people behind BoS for (and you can find them all right here if you search ), things they chose to do that I disagreed with, but I think it's stupid to come up with conspiracy theories to blame them for what was not their responsibility. They shot the sheriff, but they did not shoot the deputy. Why do people feel it necessary to make up things to be mad at them for? As someone who can't buy into conspiracy theories about anything, I've never understood that mentality. You don't like BoS? Fine. You don't like what happened with OR? Fine. You felt like your concerns weren't given the proper consideration by the developers? Fine. All those things, BTW, are potentially fixable given resources and the desire to change them. You think it was some evil backroom plot that dealt the angelic CloD team a crushing blow and forever extinguished any chance of it blossoming into the mega-awesome sim you could see appearing? And for that you can never forgive 1CGS? The Jedi Master
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#4288838 - 08/19/16 11:14 PM
Re: Update 2.003
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Wow one comparison to the fire we took over unlocks to the reaction to the broken state of CLOD and it's WWIII again in here You think it's bad now wait until that team fusion guy shows up lol I'm sure no SimHQ rules have been broken so it's gotta be somewhat peaceful
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#4288840 - 08/19/16 11:22 PM
Re: Update 2.003
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Could we please just move on?
Jason made the effort, came back after a long hiatus. We all know the history, but please let's not revisit it. It seems things might be changing. Let's not drive off the only guy who can tell us what is REALLY happening.
Cloyd Sorry but have we been disrespectful? What really is going on will come out in the game so yes let's see what happens
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#4288854 - 08/19/16 11:57 PM
Re: Update 2.003
[Re: Sokol1]
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Agreed. Plus, if we get rid of the level system, and can have a better SP experience as a result, that is fantastic.
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#4288869 - 08/20/16 01:13 AM
Re: Update 2.003
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Wasn't it like 10 years ago he mentioned his P-47 in the Pac sim idea? Long before he bought into ROF with 777 when neoqb dumped.
While I like ROF well enough, I'm sad he never go to do that. I hope some day he can get there again.
The Jedi Master Yes I licensed the Merlin engine of BOB II: WOV fame and I built a small team and we tried to make a P-47 sim in the Pacific. Didn't work out and my backer bailed so I just went back to publishing and selling other games. Then ROF came along. That failure was a good learning experience though. Jason That was a fun/frustrating time, still appreciate that opportunity though. You are a genuine flightsim junkie and I will continue to support your efforts.
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#4288899 - 08/20/16 05:10 AM
Re: Update 2.003
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Wow one comparison to the fire we took over unlocks to the reaction to the broken state of CLOD and it's WWIII again in here You think it's bad now wait until that team fusion guy shows up lol I'm sure no SimHQ rules have been broken so it's gotta be somewhat peaceful Go ahead invite him over. We'll get the band back together again. Jason
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#4288900 - 08/20/16 05:11 AM
Re: Update 2.003
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Wasn't it like 10 years ago he mentioned his P-47 in the Pac sim idea? Long before he bought into ROF with 777 when neoqb dumped.
While I like ROF well enough, I'm sad he never go to do that. I hope some day he can get there again.
The Jedi Master Yes I licensed the Merlin engine of BOB II: WOV fame and I built a small team and we tried to make a P-47 sim in the Pacific. Didn't work out and my backer bailed so I just went back to publishing and selling other games. Then ROF came along. That failure was a good learning experience though. Jason That was a fun/frustrating time, still appreciate that opportunity though. You are a genuine flightsim junkie and I will continue to support your efforts. Thanks Piper. I appreciate your continued support bud. Jason
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#4288938 - 08/20/16 12:29 PM
Re: Update 2.003
[Re: Sokol1]
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I am liking what I am reading of late. Dang I wonder if my original BOS install will update ok after all these months of not updating lol.
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#4289265 - 08/22/16 01:28 AM
Re: Update 2.003
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Wow lots of [Text deleted] on here, I don't get it.
We need to support any team cranking out flight sims in these times, there aren't many left. The new IL2 series gives me the best feeling of flight compared to any other sim I've flown imo.
Haven't had much time to fly lately which is sad but when I do I just love firing up new IL2 BoS and BoM to get a good quick flight in that makes me feel like I'm there and takes me back.
Keep up the good work Jason and team, think this next release will be solid. Can't wait for the announcement.
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Exodus
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