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#4264034 - 05/26/16 02:26 AM 4.0 Upgrade Questions  
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Brand new SB Pro PE player here, and I have a couple questions about the upcoming upgrade. How does the upgrade process work? Do we get a new license with the purchase and have to activate everything again, or is it tacked on to our existing license? How does that work? Does the dingle dongle thingamajig need to be updated too? Thanks!

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#4264038 - 05/26/16 02:43 AM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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It's my understanding that time limited licenses continue to work with newer versions without the user needing to do anything; It's effectively a "Steel Beasts Pro PE" license, not a "SBProPE version 3.XXX" license.

If you're using a dongle, you buy the upgrade license for 4.xxx and install it on the dongle in the same manner as your previous license and it works just like the old one.

#4265258 - 05/29/16 08:28 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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Yes, the license gets ADDED to the COdeMeter stick, which is basically a specialized USB thumb drive for the sole purpose of storing software licenses.


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#4267039 - 06/04/16 07:01 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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Thanks for the replies! I have the stick, so it's just a matter of adding the new license to it? No deactivation of previous license, activation of new?

#4267081 - 06/04/16 09:20 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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You bought a permanent license. For us, at least, "permanent" acutally means permanent. So you could always go back to the old version (why one would want to do it is another question, but it's a question that simply is none of our business). We simply offer to buy a new license at a reduced price to honor our long-term customers.

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#4267086 - 06/04/16 09:51 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted By: Ssnake
You bought a permanent license. For us, at least, "permanent" acutally means permanent. So you could always go back to the old version (why one would want to do it is another question, but it's a question that simply is none of our business). We simply offer to buy a new license at a reduced price to honor our long-term customers.

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You might want to be part of a MP event which includes users who haven't obtained the most recent update. Or maybe for a "looking back" review.

As the user folders are shared in some respects this might not be entirely trivial to actually do (removing mods/maps that don't work in the newer/older version because of updates).

#4267150 - 06/05/16 07:18 AM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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Not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. File formats change. The scenario file format alone has changed about 140 times over the past 15 years. Obviously you can't mix old versions and new without strict discipline about which files you use, or about your naming convention of them.

The license is just that, the right to use a given version. How you do that in practice is a different matter. You could simply duplicate all shared folders and write yourself a start script that renames them, depending on which version you want to start. Or you could use separate computers, one for an older version, and one for the new. Or you could uninstall and install either version (which would be inconvenient, admittedly). Or maybe you use a virtual machine for each version.
There are a lot of possibilities. Which one is chosen depends on the individual's know-how, intent of usage, and other circumstances.



Anyway, to summarize my previous statement: All SB Pro PE licenses version 2.5, 2.6, or 3.0 are eligible for the 4.0 upgrade.
The oldest SB Pro PE licenses however (2.4 and earlier), are not.


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#4267171 - 06/05/16 11:49 AM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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Hi Ssanke, are you still shooting for a June release or is it looking like it may slip a bit?

#4267188 - 06/05/16 01:37 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Ratcatcher]  
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Also just wondering what the pricing is going to be for the update .. (just have to start preparing the ground work with the Financial consultant .. the wife) biggrin


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#4267282 - 06/05/16 04:54 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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a) I'll post news as soon as I have them, provided they are somewhat reliable.
b) $40.-


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#4288267 - 08/18/16 01:58 AM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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I have a "forever" license for version 3.25 and have not played/updated in awhile.

Questions:
- What does 4.0 give you?
- How much for the upgrade? (Could not find that anywhere. Is it $40?)
- Link to patches for 3.25? (May as well get the latest updates for that version while I mull the upgrade decision.)

Thanks in advance.


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#4288273 - 08/18/16 02:28 AM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Barkhorn1x]  
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What does 4.0 give you?

you should read the 4.0 release notes, 53 pages: https://www.esimgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/SBProPE_4-0_RN.pdf

+ there will be a free patch which will add a high resolution terrain engine, expected release in the first quarter of 2017.

the first post in this thread has links to videos + more info on 4.0: http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/10355-sb-pro-pe-40-discussion-thread/

Steel Beasts Pro PE 4.0 is 64 bit only!

How much for the upgrade?

you would need the $40 dollar Upgrade License here: http://www.esimgames.com/?page_id=1361

Link to patches for 3.25?

with your 3.0 license you can run 3.027 + its 3.028 patch. download it at eSim Games: http://www.esimgames.com/?page_id=1390

#4288351 - 08/18/16 01:05 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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OK. Read the release notes (skimmed them anyway) and watched some videos and I am sold.

Thanks for the links Kramer. I have all I need now.


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#4288355 - 08/18/16 01:08 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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Actually, three more Qs.

- Is the 3.0 Key settings file compatible w/ 4.0?
- Are pre-4.0 scenarios compatible w/ the new engine?
- Old skins?

Thanks.

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#4288440 - 08/18/16 04:39 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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I think the old file will be imported (and converted). Which means that from that point on it can no longer be used in 3.0.
Of course there are new commands in it, so it makes sense to go through the list and see if you want to change anything.

Yes, old scenarios should load without problems. The old nav meshes are however obsolete and will be ignored (so it makes sense to open the scenarios in the Mission Editor, go to the Maps menu, and purge, then rebuild the navmesh; which is now lightning fast, compared to the old way). While you're at it, feel free to adjust the weather conditions.

Most of them won't work, which shouldn't come as a surprise. Old models are routinely updated by us, so the old textures simply no longer work.


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#4288445 - 08/18/16 05:24 PM Re: 4.0 Upgrade Questions [Re: Rambler]  
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TY Mr. Ssnake. Sounds workable to me. I will order today!


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