Just got home from watching this and I felt it was overall a pretty solid film. Its biggest strength is that it didn't have the gaping plot holes that we saw with "Into Darkness".

What struck me the most about this film is that I couldn't tell at all that this was made by a different director. In both style and pacing, Justin Lin was indistinguishable from JJ Abrams.

A better screenwriter helped too when its better than the Prometheus and Into Darkness hack, Lindelof.

Cool. I haven't seen it yet, but plan on it.

I would have to see it anyway, having grown up with TOS, but it's good to know that I might enjoy it, too!

Kind of liked the first JJ film.

Disliked "Darkness".

Loved this one. Finally, I think they "get" Star Trek. Kudos to Pegg, Jung and Lin for rescuing the film franchise.

BTW, have you seen the teaser for the new series "Star Trek: Discovery"? I'm digging the vibe, but I still can't tell which era it's from.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/23/12257910/star-trek-discovery-tv-series-trailer-cbs-sdcc-2016

I saw that Simon Pegg wrote it, or took main writing credit, along with the guy who played Sulu's husband.
My thoughts are in the other thread, but in general I like it. One big problem with it, and I think I missed some explanations. Still, a fun movie.

There is some evidence that it may be Pre TOS.

Hypothetical: CBS/Paramount has secretly made a deal with "Axanar", whom they sued, to take over and incorporate stalled fan film into the new series.

I give that a 1 chance in 1000 of being the case but it would be awesome were it so.

I was pleasantly surprised with how well the film balanced action scenes with character development scenes. I just think a lot of people freaked out because Justin Lin came from the Fast & Furious franchise.

I liked it.

I am really impressed with their research into the "Enterprise era" of Starfleet/Federation with the Romulan war, (I actually want to read the book series on that now) formation of the UNFP, Disbandment of the MACOs, formation of Starfleet, how you could see the USS Franklin's lineage descended from the NX-01. - I Loved that aspect, they really did get that bit right, but with Mr Pegg in charge of writing, I expected nothing less.

It actually blew me away how they got all those bits just #%&*$# so, I missed the whole how Krall goes nuts and becomes the villain.
Even a reprise of Sabotage, Balls out, #%&*$# A, man! #%&*$# A!!

Nit picking the details:
The UNFP "Federation" is a Government, Star fleet is the "Armed Forces" of that Government.

I think making Starfleet a non military organisation is a big mistake.
OK primary mission is to explore but priority 2 should be defend your established territories.
(I know it goes against Gene's vision, but hope for the best, plan for the worst.)


Look how strung out the Dominion War was.
If the Fed had a dedicated War Fleet and Marines instead of "Security" they'd have battered the Cardassians in half the time.

I know, I know.... Plot.

I was also impressed the crew wore slightly more adequate clothing for the situation.


So my rating 9/10 Its up there with "First contact" & "Wrath of Khan"

Please please please put this team back together for number 4

Wow, I'm surprised and pleased at the positive vibes here. I was going to pass on this one as the reviews that I've seen have all been similar to this:
http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/07/star-trek-beyond-trek-by-numbers-is-no-trek-at-all/
...thus confirming my worst fears about the trajectory of the franchise. But I'll now try and get to see it this week.

Was there anything in TOS that pointed to Sulu batting for the other team?..or is it an assumption based on the actor who played him?
If I was George Takei, I think I'd be annoyed if it's the latter.

Well in Star Trek Generations Sulu had a Daughter....


If I'm honest the plot does wander about at little bit, but it gets going in the final third/quarter, it makes up for it.

The closest TV episode I can equate to ST Beyond is the Voyager 2 parter with the USS Equinox.

The review has some merits for sure. I'll just say this much: The film had a production budget of 185 million USD so yes, to a large extent the writers and producers played it "safe" with the exception of the Sulu relationship aspect.

I was a little surprised, but he is actually against it:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154

I can completely understand Takei's argument. This issue shouldn't be about sexual orientation but it's an issue about what was the vision that Roddenberry had for Sulu when Star Trek originally started?

WE'LL DO THIS BECAUSE EDGY

I feel for Takei. Every new movie has been taking an old series and mashing it into something "modern" (AKA bad) and completely different.

When I made my earlier comment, I didn't realise that Takei was still alive. Thanks for the link, Arthonon. Seems strange that they didn't bother asking him.

The other thing that stood out from the reviews is that this is basically yet another remake of the 'Wrath of Khan'. I understand PM's 'safe' comment, but with a universe of possibilities, the best they can come up with is another 'evil humanoid with a grievance' story.

Anyway, when I actually get to see it, I might be pleasantly surprised.

I agree with George completely. If these movies are
supposed to take place in a time prior to the original
series, then George's character would now have a
completely different back story to what he will have
imagined for him. It could even be considered disrespectful
of his work - you're gay, George, you failed at acting
a straight guy.

The JJ movies take place in an alternate time period, not a prior time period to TOS.

Yes, alternate timeline, which I thought was a kind of clever way of breaking off from the original history, but it's like I've said in other threads about the JJ Abrams movies - if you want to change everything, like the tone and the characters, why call it Star Trek?

I get the idea of using a known quantity to appeal to people, but if you make it different, you're still not likely to get non-Star Trek fans interested because they'll see the name, and you'll alienate the actual Star Trek fans because it was too different.

Saw it last night. It wasn't bad ; a bit disjointed I thought and I agree with the comment that it was another 'Wrath of Khan".

I think the characters were better this time and even Simon Peg improved ( slightly ) as Scotty. I look forward to better sequels to come.

As a confirmed nerd I have this comment.....the guys who designed the huge federation space station IMO must have played Mass Effect....it reminded me very much of "the Citadel"

Not just the space station but what about the soldiers of Krall? Didn't they look a lot like the Collector drones from Mass Effect 2?