My Brother in law wants me to build a PC for him to do video editing and media stuff. I mocked up a build for him which would probably make a good gaming PC but I really don't know what he really needs (and I don't think he does either). https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=35533447 he could go up to 32 Gb of Ram and a bigger processor, I just really don't know what would be the best combination of stuff. So any suggestions would be appreciated.
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#4274544 - 06/29/1604:50 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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#4274558 - 06/29/1605:18 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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I'd go Intel, i7 6700k rather than the FX8350. I'm considering that change myself. I put together what I'd want if I were doing a full new build with that in mind.
Costs more, but you can shave here and there, $120 on the graphics card going with your choice if gaming is really out of the question. Compare with Amazon, they beat them out sometimes. I highly recommend that case. Plenty of fans, the space is a dream to work with, well filtered and easy to get into.
Also, I went 2 TB Black drive for the video, so you can save some if you go 1 TB, but space tends to use up faster than you think with video. 250GB SSD for the OS. Makes a HUGE difference and they're much cheaper now. Not worth it to save $60, go SSD.
Save a few bucks and pull the DVD drive from their current pc. If you need it at all, but I understand they might be burning videos to dvd.
You need a better rated, more reliable power supply. 750 watt should still be more than enough.
Yeah I would echo the same recommendations for the i7 6700k which will provide lots of headroom for video processing and allow you to get DDR4 memory. Also splurge a bit more for a decent quality brand power supply (Corsair, Seasonic), a few more bucks now but the power supply will last over many years of CPU/GPU/MB upgrades, instead of burning out in a year or two and need replacement.
#4274565 - 06/29/1605:33 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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I've had cheap power supplies arrive DOA. Probably a blessing rather than installing and having it crap out. LOL
Check out youtube on reputable review channels. You'll find a lot of info comparing the cpu's. I think the cost factor will be offset by the number of years you get out of that 6700k. How long have you had your 2500k Kludger? I know it's been a LONG time.
I've had cheap power supplies arrive DOA. Probably a blessing rather than installing and having it crap out. LOL
Check out youtube on reputable review channels. You'll find a lot of info comparing the cpu's. I think the cost factor will be offset by the number of years you get out of that 6700k. How long have you had your 2500k Kludger? I know it's been a LONG time.
Yeah I've been running on this i5-2500k (overclocked to 4.5GHZ) for over 5 years, and the Corsair TX850 power supply a couple of years more than that! All I've had to upgrade over that time is my GPU (ATI5870, GTX560, GTX670, GTX970), the CPU and everything else just keeps kicking butt.
The 6700k is the modern version of my 2500k, and is what I would buy now if my 2500k died (knock on wood that it doesn't).
Yeah I learned my lesson with cheap power supplies too with ones I installed in my wife's PC, it may cost $50 now compared to $90 for a good one, but when it dies unexpectedly a year later, you end up paying again to replace it and dealing with the headaches and downtime than if you had gotten something that lasts in the first place.
I'd go Intel, i7 6700k rather than the FX8350. I'm considering that change myself. I put together what I'd want if I were doing a full new build with that in mind.
Costs more, but you can shave here and there, $120 on the graphics card going with your choice if gaming is really out of the question. Compare with Amazon, they beat them out sometimes. I highly recommend that case. Plenty of fans, the space is a dream to work with, well filtered and easy to get into.
Also, I went 2 TB Black drive for the video, so you can save some if you go 1 TB, but space tends to use up faster than you think with video. 250GB SSD for the OS. Makes a HUGE difference and they're much cheaper now. Not worth it to save $60, go SSD.
Save a few bucks and pull the DVD drive from their current pc. If you need it at all, but I understand they might be burning videos to dvd.
You need a better rated, more reliable power supply. 750 watt should still be more than enough.
I cant see your link it has to be a public list, he spoke of an i5 and I just went AMD 'cos that's what I know and I know that the Power supply was weak I just threw it on as a place holder for him, what I really need is a MB/CPU Vid card combo that would be solid without being hugely expensive and that could still grow a little. I actually have an MSI Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 with an i5 Sandy Bridge 2500k 3.3Ghz that's just sitting here, it would be compatible with an i7
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#4274680 - 06/29/1610:21 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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Had IbuyPower.com custom build a system I use for 4k Video video editing and gaming. Specs are in my sig. Just upgraded my monitor from 32" Dell 4k to 43" Spectre 4k TV. WOW, what a world of difference getting back up to a big screen again and 4K.
It's checked shared now, but maybe it takes a day or so to show up. It's not on the search yet. What I have is higher priced, but like I said, could be knocked down a few hundred with the graphics card, mobo, and smaller Black drive.
well the way I see it is the Sandy Bridge i5 2500k I already have is as good as any of the other Haswell i5's I could get and even a refurbed one is nearly if not more than a new chip. I'm sure the i7 6700 is better but it's like $300 so I may just build off this MSI board which is still good with the i5 and add the RAM and a decent vid card.
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#4274771 - 06/30/1607:15 AMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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My question would be, "what kind of video editing"? 4K videos in real-time? Full HD videos with a bit of render delay?
Makes a HUGE difference. The latter can be done with pretty much any PC. The former, well, you'd need to go high end in a number of areas, particularly using multiple PCI lanes just for I/O, not the graphics card.
#4274774 - 06/30/1607:30 AMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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Very favorable review of the new AMD Rx480. A lot of performance for $200-240. I'm not going back to AMD from Nvidia, but it's tempting!
well the way I see it is the Sandy Bridge i5 2500k I already have is as good as any of the other Haswell i5's I could get and even a refurbed one is nearly if not more than a new chip. I'm sure the i7 6700 is better but it's like $300 so I may just build off this MSI board which is still good with the i5 and add the RAM and a decent vid card.
I think the main benefit of the i7 would be hyperthreading and faster memory interface which should speed up video processing.
But if you have that i5-2500k sitting there, yeah you should definitely give it a try and also give overclocking a try, that chip overclocks like a champ and you should be able to do 4.0ghz without much tweaking if your MB supports it.
I've done plenty of video processing with mine, but I don't mind waiting for the transcoding, I probably would have gotten a i7-2600k or 2700k if I really needed faster transcoding or number crunching.
Here was a fairly recent video that compared an overclocked i5-2500k to a current Skylake i5-6500, it shows that the faster Skylake memory interface helps when the number crunching gets heavy to keep consistent fps, the i7-6700k would do much better I'm sure with the 4 more hyperthreads:
Here's my issue right now, he isn't a builder and I know little about what he's doing as it is a new thing that he's been dabbling in for a while and I'm not sure of the level of complexity he's working but I know it's entry level at the moment. I can pair AMD stuff pretty well but the Intel stuff has some with video support some without, some chips have a number representing what degree that is but it's meaningless to me 530, 2000 etc. He wants to be able to run 3 monitors so I imagine between the MB and the Vid card that can be accomplished, he wants 32 gigs of ram. I'm just finding it difficult to match all the features to the proper pairing. He showed me what Dell and HP wanted to sell him and I think it's possible to beat the price and build a more personalized PC and if it was AMD it would be easily less than $1500, at least that's what I thought.
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#4274891 - 06/30/1606:05 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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On a smaller scale using an older i5 with 8GB memory for 1080i editing. It wasn't for professional, just good home and J class rocket building, launch kind of documentation. Sony Vega software.
It was OK, but yet frustrating. Then, switched out the C drive into a SSD. Load most programs on a standard D drive.
It was like a different machine. My assumption is that the Windows Swap file and video editing work better with an SSD. Your case may be different, but it sure made a huge difference for me.
#4274900 - 06/30/1606:54 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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Well so far I have a pretty good build that I can't apparently save as public for some odd reason, but it's coming in under budget and uses an i7 Devils Canyon CPU and an MSI board, I'll post it when I can.
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#4275039 - 07/01/1605:13 AMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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This is the build I came up with per his specs comparative to what HP said they could build https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=35561347 my build has a few things not listed; Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and any peripherals m/kb etc. not really needed HP's build was this: 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-5820K hexa-core processor [3.3GHz, 15MB Shared Cache] No Additional Security Software 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6G Hard Drive Home and Home Office Insert No Secondary HDD SuperMulti DVD Burner NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 FH GFX 24GB DDR4-2133 DIMM (2x8GB+2x4GB) RAM Microsoft® Office Trial HP USB volume control Keyboard and USB Optical Mouse 7-in-1 Media Card Reader, 4 USB Ports (Top), Audio [Top 2USB2.0, 2USB3.0] HP ENVY Phoenix 850se Win 7 Desktop PC HP Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 1x1 with Bluetooth® M.2 NIC Windows 7 Professional 64 Integrated Sound Grand total over $1400 includes a 3 year anything goes warranty and full replacement which of course you are paying for in the price I'm sure.
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#4275682 - 07/03/1605:55 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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So it turns out HP sweetened the pot, made him an another offer to make it cheaper and with a warranty I/we agreed that it was a better deal and I don't have to ship it or be his customer support. So this got me to thinking that this Intel CPU and MB I already have might be better (well specs say so anyway) than my current system. I'm actually thinking of doing it. This board though doesn't have video although the CPU does support it, what benefit would I have given my current Vid Card really and most of all will I have to reinstall everything? I can't just put an SSD with windows and run it can I, that would have to be reinstalled right?
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#4275831 - 07/04/1601:16 PMRe: Building a PC for Video editing and Media, need help
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