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#4272048 - 06/21/16 04:19 PM No more F18E  
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From Coretex's Facebook
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Hello All Coretex Designs Supporters!

I wanted to clear something up because we are receiving messages, and posts asking if the project will be finished.

At this specific time the Coretex Designs team is no longer together, and the F/A-18E Super Hornet module has stopped development. Eagle Dynamics has retracted our 3rd party license, and our support due to a conflict of interest with their F/A-18C module.

Thank you for all the support, and I will update everyone if this changes.


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#4272051 - 06/21/16 04:29 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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It had nothing to do w/ the F/A-18C, But hey, let's just throw a line to make it look like ED's Fault like everyone else.

They've been MIA for over a year.


Meanwhile (WIP):






http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2661881&postcount=789
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2666967&postcount=811
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2695922&postcount=837
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#4272060 - 06/21/16 04:54 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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It's looking great! thumbsup I agree, it had nothing to do with ED. I would rather purchase ED'S F-18 anyway!

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#4272066 - 06/21/16 04:57 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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Yep, the whole Coretex business looked pretty much done for when the lead developer said he wouldn't be able to spend much more time on it due to his full-time job more than a year ago.

Only too fitting that they're now trying to somehow shift the blame towards ED.


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#4272069 - 06/21/16 05:15 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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To Clarify, that ending statement about F/A-18C being a reason is 100% inaccurate:
They Never had a License Agreement w/ Eagle Dynamics.


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#4272074 - 06/21/16 05:31 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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I knew this more than a year ago. They never had their act together from day one.


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#4272082 - 06/21/16 05:53 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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The ones that should really make a superbug for dcs are VRS. But then I guess their Tacpack would take hit in sales...

#4272085 - 06/21/16 06:03 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: bkthunder]  
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Originally Posted By: bkthunder
The ones that should really make a superbug for dcs are VRS. But then I guess their Tacpack would take hit in sales...


Search the VRS forums and you will find that they are not interested.


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#4272097 - 06/21/16 06:27 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: bkthunder]  
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Originally Posted By: bkthunder
The ones that should really make a superbug for dcs are VRS. But then I guess their Tacpack would take hit in sales...


There's .0001 % chance of that happening anytime within the next millennium, VRS have made their position on DCS Clear.

That Plus:

DCS: VRS SuperBug Complete w/ Weapons = $60/59.99 ish per sale,
FSX: VRS SuperBug (44.95) + TacPack For Weapons (39.95) = $ 84.90 Separate ($79.95 if You Buy Bundle)
P3D: VRS SuperBug (59.95) + TacPack For Weapons (49.95) = $109.90 Separate ($99.95 if You Buy Bundle)

FSX and P3D Code Bases share commonality, so most of their resources transfer between one or the other,

w/ DCS, Everything is Different, they'd have to re-do:
-Convert Model materials, animations, format, damage model meshes etc,
-Systems, All of them, from scratch
-Flight Model, All of it, from scratch
-Damage Model, All of it, from scratch


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#4272158 - 06/21/16 09:50 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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#4272177 - 06/21/16 10:58 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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It's no more than word against word. And so far, I can't recall CTD ever having lied, scammed or stolen. ED though...

#4272181 - 06/21/16 11:30 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
Originally Posted By: bkthunder
The ones that should really make a superbug for dcs are VRS. But then I guess their Tacpack would take hit in sales...


There's .0001 % chance of that happening anytime within the next millennium, VRS have made their position on DCS Clear.

That Plus:

DCS: VRS SuperBug Complete w/ Weapons = $60/59.99 ish per sale,
FSX: VRS SuperBug (44.95) + TacPack For Weapons (39.95) = $ 84.90 Separate ($79.95 if You Buy Bundle)
P3D: VRS SuperBug (59.95) + TacPack For Weapons (49.95) = $109.90 Separate ($99.95 if You Buy Bundle)

FSX and P3D Code Bases share commonality, so most of their resources transfer between one or the other,

w/ DCS, Everything is Different, they'd have to re-do:
-Convert Model materials, animations, format, damage model meshes etc,
-Systems, All of them, from scratch
-Flight Model, All of it, from scratch
-Damage Model, All of it, from scratch


transferring a high end sim is is never 100% from scratch: All the research and knowledge they compiled making the FSX version given them a leg up on any competition. I'd not discount that as a significant development cost already checked off.

Still A LOT of work to do though. And yeah, they really aren't down with the way the wind blows in EDlandia...


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#4272193 - 06/22/16 12:14 AM Re: No more F18E [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
Originally Posted By: bkthunder
The ones that should really make a superbug for dcs are VRS. But then I guess their Tacpack would take hit in sales...


There's .0001 % chance of that happening anytime within the next millennium, VRS have made their position on DCS Clear.

That Plus:

DCS: VRS SuperBug Complete w/ Weapons = $60/59.99 ish per sale,
FSX: VRS SuperBug (44.95) + TacPack For Weapons (39.95) = $ 84.90 Separate ($79.95 if You Buy Bundle)
P3D: VRS SuperBug (59.95) + TacPack For Weapons (49.95) = $109.90 Separate ($99.95 if You Buy Bundle)

FSX and P3D Code Bases share commonality, so most of their resources transfer between one or the other,

w/ DCS, Everything is Different, they'd have to re-do:
-Convert Model materials, animations, format, damage model meshes etc,
-Systems, All of them, from scratch
-Flight Model, All of it, from scratch
-Damage Model, All of it, from scratch



Didn't know DCS planned an E version skate.

And not sure why Varmit's product brought up here. If you want a great F/A-18 sim now you go VRS, if you want DCS version you're going to wait.
Pretty simple.

#4272195 - 06/22/16 12:25 AM Re: No more F18E [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
Originally Posted By: bkthunder
The ones that should really make a superbug for dcs are VRS. But then I guess their Tacpack would take hit in sales...


There's .0001 % chance of that happening anytime within the next millennium, VRS have made their position on DCS Clear.

That Plus:

DCS: VRS SuperBug Complete w/ Weapons = $60/59.99 ish per sale,
FSX: VRS SuperBug (44.95) + TacPack For Weapons (39.95) = $ 84.90 Separate ($79.95 if You Buy Bundle)
P3D: VRS SuperBug (59.95) + TacPack For Weapons (49.95) = $109.90 Separate ($99.95 if You Buy Bundle)

FSX and P3D Code Bases share commonality, so most of their resources transfer between one or the other,

w/ DCS, Everything is Different, they'd have to re-do:
-Convert Model materials, animations, format, damage model meshes etc,
-Systems, All of them, from scratch
-Flight Model, All of it, from scratch
-Damage Model, All of it, from scratch

Let's not forget the annual subscription cost for the tacpack and superbug.
However, the tacpack and the superbug are pretty well supported as they're their only products, I do believe an F-18F is in development? though. Can't really say that about a lot of DCS modules.
I don't believe the workload is what put VRS off of porting over to DCS, it was the percentage of sales and money up front required by ED. I do believe the reason we don't see a lot more third party devs is because of that very same reason.
I'd also like to say we have some third party devs that really shouldn't have that title, their work rate is abysmal. Their products should be pulled from the market place and their "3rd party" status revoked.


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#4272217 - 06/22/16 03:41 AM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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Originally Posted By: Genbrien
From Coretex's Facebook
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Hello All Coretex Designs Supporters!

I wanted to clear something up because we are receiving messages, and posts asking if the project will be finished.

At this specific time the Coretex Designs team is no longer together, and the F/A-18E Super Hornet module has stopped development. Eagle Dynamics has retracted our 3rd party license, and our support due to a conflict of interest with their F/A-18C module.

Thank you for all the support, and I will update everyone if this changes.

Coretex just never managed to find a solution to their one big Bug...
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#4272263 - 06/22/16 12:37 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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#4272270 - 06/22/16 12:56 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Johnny_Redd]  
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Originally Posted By: Johnny_Redd

Let's not forget the annual subscription cost for the tacpack and superbug.


That's a thing?

#4272291 - 06/22/16 02:38 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Genbrien]  
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^Yup, another reason I ditched FSX after dropping over 2 grand on it in the first year it was out. Sold it all off at a loss just to get it off my harddrive and its strangle hold on my VISA card.

I did buy the steam version for 5 bucks, but havent gotten the balls to launch it, I fear if I do i'll get sucked back into the trap.

If I wanna fly a super bug, I'll go on base and book simulator time.


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#4272294 - 06/22/16 02:52 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Remon]  
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Originally Posted By: Remon
Originally Posted By: Johnny_Redd

Let's not forget the annual subscription cost for the tacpack and superbug.


That's a thing?


the princely sum of $7.95 - and if you don't want to pay, you don't.

FSX is really something of the past - I always advise to move on to P3D which is much better.

#4272316 - 06/22/16 05:27 PM Re: No more F18E [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted By: Tom_Weiss
Originally Posted By: Remon
Originally Posted By: Johnny_Redd

Let's not forget the annual subscription cost for the tacpack and superbug.


That's a thing?


the princely sum of $7.95 - and if you don't want to pay, you don't.

FSX is really something of the past - I always advise to move on to P3D which is much better.


Extremely Better


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