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#4271904 - 06/20/16 09:24 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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You're trying to 'apologise' for cluttering up SimHQ with your ED forum crap.......yet you're the one cluttering up SimHQ with your ED forum crap.

Like I mentioned......if you have something to say to a user you or other mods have banned on ED forums, perhaps you need to re-think that stupid ED strategy. Perhaps speaking to people before you select the ban-hammer would be a good starting point!

Can you not even see the irony in the whole situation?


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#4271906 - 06/20/16 09:29 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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You can post. But once again it's not about moderation itself nor about me personally. I write about that you don't give any opportunity to discuss in Veao section. User asks, then he get an unsatisfying reply from devs, and further question and statements by user are considered not needed by moderators. You delete what shouldn't be deleted and ban when you shouldn't ban guided by your subjective attitude to user and the devs in this case Veao. Can I talk about spin behavior on Veao forum? No? Why? According to what rule? You protect Veao against users interest. Why did they say that only small % affected by fall bug in topic where a user asked other users if hawk was worth buying? Why devs should ever post in that topic advertising their module like it was ok? Werent their posts redundant their? To be honest having the blocker issue like falling out the sky bug they should freeze sales till it will be fixed and not telling about small % which is big in real. Once again. Your moderation allows Veao to tell any tales on their hawk and do not allow users to respond critically. May be users concerns are redundant for them and sales is only thing they care? Eh?

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#4271914 - 06/20/16 09:43 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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eekz,

I have to agree with Skate here.

On May 3rd, the dev Ells228 created this thread asking:

Originally Posted By: Ells228
Guys,
We are trying to nail down this falling out the sky bug.

Can you please kindly say if you are or are not having the issue so we can see what might be causing it.


Maybe not as easy to see results as a normal poll format ...but they did a poll of sorts already.

Threads like the one Ells228 asked are a mixed bag though...it probably only represents a small percentage of Hawk owners. There's a silent majority of people that fly sims that have never heard of...or don't use ED's forums (or any forum for that matter).

A good example of this: ED's forums show about 55,000 members...while Steam spy shows over a million owners of DCS World.

Just my opinion of course.

Keep it clean gents!

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#4271915 - 06/20/16 09:44 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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What I don't understand is why delete a thread due to being "duplicates" or "unnecessary"? If it is indeed not needed, then won't the forum members just ignore it and that post will get buried after a few days? If it is needed, the you'll see the response on the threads as well. Why does it become a moderator's job to determine which threads "pass" and which ones get deleted?


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#4271993 - 06/21/16 11:56 AM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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I am sure that if someone posts multiple threads about how wonderful a module is, he is sent on a 30 day vacation and if he insists,




winkngrin

in all seriousness, I always marvel at the amount of energy put on controlling the message and the angry tone with which it is done.

Supposedly this is a game we are costumers, not serfs.

whatever.

as Skate would say:

have a wonderful day !!!

#4271995 - 06/21/16 12:14 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
What I don't understand is why delete a thread due to being "duplicates" or "unnecessary"? If it is indeed not needed, then won't the forum members just ignore it and that post will get buried after a few days? If it is needed, the you'll see the response on the threads as well. Why does it become a moderator's job to determine which threads "pass" and which ones get deleted?


Guess the thing here is that the developer has already clearly stated that they are indeed aware of the issue and trying to fix it.
They even reached out to the community on this..

Now, what justifies such a thread? Why would you create it, would you think it creates any kind of friendly atmosphere?
While I mostly disapprove of the ED forum's moderation, this is an action I find to be absolutely reasonable. This thread would've served no use except for mocking them along the lines of "look! so many people have this issue! such a bad developer haha".

This would inadvertedly generate a hostile environment.. which the forum already is to a large extent, anyways. No need to add more fuel to the fire.

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#4272029 - 06/21/16 02:51 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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Skate - lighten up wink

I am sure that there are people who care deeply about what you guys do, you all should thread more lightly

and don't worry about me - I arrived safely here




and ... have a wonderful day !!! smile

#4272032 - 06/21/16 02:54 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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#4272040 - 06/21/16 03:36 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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that is great - and I am working on a few A2A P-51D and T-8 skins and have to finish that M2M MK2 skin.

Next year it is going to be 10 years I started on FSX, thanks to it I got into skin making and I continue it now with P3D, probably I would not be in skin making if it were not for FSX, for once, thank you Microsoft.

#4272043 - 06/21/16 03:54 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
Those Previous Posts were argumentative towards Developers and their SME's who are actual HAWK T1A Pilots, Not Google Keyboard Warriors.

Read comments to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUyo2Vu8y4 then call people Google Keyboar Warriors or something.

Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
That Material was of Completely different Aircraft (T-45, T2, etc, all have different stall / spin behavior than 1a)
The Thread was deleted.


That's not true. Not that different from t1 as the VEAO Hawk is.

Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
(Though the Flat Spin Discussion was allowed, the discussions of the Stall / Spin Behavior that spawned from it were repetitive and inaccurate, Like the developers, I'll take the word of actual pilots over YT Docu-Videos of Other Similar Aircraft, of those, most of them were modified to force stall/spin situations to gather data for NASA/USN etc).

They were accurate enough to show the problem. Constant -0.2G and 70AoA and 1 turn / 1 second (both in x and y surfaces) in simulation is quite reasonable data to make the statement. By the way have you ever heard a word from actual T1 pilots personally?

Anyway, you are right and I acknowledge the ban you have issued.
I'm sorry for been rude with VEAO and all, best of luck in making DCS-level modules. I hope you all are happy.
I quit it, and I delete all my statements related to VEAO in here. I've just made my own judgment.

If you really want to discuss it and see the data I have you are welcome to PM me here. I've changed my mind and I'm not going to post anything publicly related to this anymore.

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#4272062 - 06/21/16 04:56 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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This is the Issue:

Right now, You are still pushing info about the spin/stall behavior w/ me, that wasnt the problem, none of the above was while you were banned, so it's irrelevant.

Like I Said, the 2 major issues were posting of the copyright material, and re-posting after thread was deleted.

The entire Stall Behavior debate has ZERO to do with anything, other than heated debate.
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Moving past that I can debate the Stall/Spin Behavior with you, and make it constructive.

Regarding the The EFM Loading Failure/Fall outta the sky/Battlefield 3 Stuck in the Sky, and whatever else it's Called:
Yes, the EFM has some issues, Yes it Affects a % of People,
That actual % Even with polls you will never know, as you dont know actual HAWK Sales Figures, so you'd have no basis to debate the actual %of user with the developer, who has both sales figures and support requests, so their figures are likely more accurate.

However this particular issue isnt with the EFM paysey, but is believed to be part of the StarForce protection system when mixed with specific windows variables.


Now onto the Spin Behavior, I believe they said part of it was left in as a Gameplay Element, whether that changes I dont know.

The T45C is no where near the same flight model as the Hawk T.1A, Neither is the Hawk T.2

They have different STALL/SPIN Characteristics, Stemming from different internal Structure, Re-Enforced Structure, Modified Framing, Added SLATS, Modified Gear Systems, Shifted CoG and Different Engines

If you want to discuss stall / spin behavior and post videos, post relevant videos, of the HAWK T.1A, not the T-45, Not the Hawk T.2

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#4272090 - 06/21/16 06:11 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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Skates, doesn't ED's rule 1.3 preclude discussing this here as well. This forum is public.


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#4272093 - 06/21/16 06:17 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted By: cichlidfan
Skates, doesn't ED's rule 1.3 preclude discussing this here as well. This forum is public.


Hasn't stopped anyone else from coming here to complain or discuss etc,

Only one A user would have to worry about is 1.13,

And he's fine, as debating Stall/Spin Behavior and sources is not spreading damaging/false info,

And I'd rather debate Stall/Spin behavior than the other stuff,

So Cheers to that.

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#4272094 - 06/21/16 06:20 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: SkateZilla]  
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OK, so the rule should read 'not subject to discussion on ED's forum' since public discussion is actually OK.


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#4272100 - 06/21/16 06:38 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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i literally cannot stop you from getting off ED Forums walking over to your wife and saying "son of a .... I got banned".. or going to the pub and being like "hey guys I got banned from ED... Buy me a Drank!"

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#4272105 - 06/21/16 06:51 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
i literally cannot stop you from getting off ED Forums walking over to your wife and saying "son of a .... I got banned".. or going to the pub and being like "hey guys I got banned from ED... Buy me a Drank!"


Agreed. Which is why the wording of the rule makes it unenforceable as written.


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#4272123 - 06/21/16 07:43 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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It is odd that some of my all time favorites the Gazelle, Hawk and Mirage 2000 are in DCS, thanfully the M2K is also in P3D.

#4272156 - 06/21/16 09:24 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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1.3 Administrative actions against forum members are not subject to public discussion. If you feel an action against you was unjust or otherwise inappropriate, please use the Private Messaging (PM) system to appeal the action to other forum staff members or the forum administrator.

Does anyone else think that this rule was written by someone who is retarded?


If you get a ban , you cannot login and pm anyone ?



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#4272160 - 06/21/16 10:07 PM Re: DCS: VEAO Hawk EFM & Damage Model [Re: Winfield]  
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You can still login.


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You are banned so you cannot access anything to pm a moderator , hence the retarded statement



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