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#4263704 - 05/25/16 10:15 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: nicky]  
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Originally Posted By: nicky
I have NVidia 980ti and it runs everything at full with no problems although I am still using 1080p monitor, I wouldn't buy 1080 card just yet as the 3rd party cards can get more out of 1080 card for less money than the founders edition. so its worth holding off, plus I would only update if moving to 1440p or 2k monitor.


That's why I'm waiting for the 3rd party Ti edition cards to come out. Superior cooling and better overclocking. I've got a 4k monitor already and I've just been waiting for the right card to put it to use.


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#4263712 - 05/25/16 10:51 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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how do ya run games on 4k monitor I love the idea of one but I just wouldn't want to reduce graphics settings to run the games.

#4263721 - 05/25/16 11:19 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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nicky:
You have to have a GPU strong enough to "push" all those pixels, like "possibly" the new generation of video cards.


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#4265177 - 05/29/16 04:41 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Ahh here comes the interesting part for me. The first "leaked" possible specs for the 1080 ti version. It looks to hold a significant number of advantages over the stock 1080. Once ASUS or EVGA start pushing out their 3rd party Ti versions with superior cooling options, I'm going to be very interested to see what kind of performance gain over the Founders Edition (that's the dumbest name..it's just a reference card) they will have.

http://techreport.com/news/30174/rumor-a-gp102-geforce-titan-and-gtx-1080-ti-are-in-the-works


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#4265193 - 05/29/16 05:24 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Think you have to wait untill the AMD highend cards are released. If it can beat nVidia 1080ti in performance it will be forced to roll out an GTX1085. Right now the New cards have lots of improvements, like real 4k support, full directx12 and VR, so a secoundhand GTX980ti or a FuryX will be dropped in prices, As a ww1 flysim player on a 2560/1440 monitor this could be also an very intresting option, think a GTX1080 would be a little bit overkill in my situation.

#4265220 - 05/29/16 06:45 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
As a ww1 flysim player on a 2560/1440 monitor this could be also an very intresting option, think a GTX1080 would be a little bit overkill in my situation.



You say Overkill. I call it "future proofing." I haven't heard about a DirectX 12 compatible WOFF 4 yet, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. LOL


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#4265240 - 05/29/16 07:37 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
a GTX1080 would be a little bit overkill in my situation.


No such thing as "overkill" in graphics cards. As Hellshade says, its "future proofing" and even then, an upper range GPU has a realistic 'game life' of about 4 or 5 years tops before new game and graphic technology render it somewhat obsolete. Yes, it may still run most software within reason, but not to the extent the software is capable off.

I have a few 'rules of thumb' when I build a new gaming box...

1. The quietest, tightest and physically biggest case out there (Usually an Antec). Ever notice how graphics cards and cooling systems get physically bigger? A larger than originally needed case can serve you through 2 or 3 rebuilds.

2. NEVER skimp on the Motherboard! It is the primary base tech hardware of your box!!! Buy the very best, most cutting edge MB you can (Usually an Asus). This will assure upgrade-ability to new, more powerful CPU/GPU/RAM for at least 4 years minimum, usually more.

3. Time your new mega build well. Follow gaming tech. Know what the key factors in gaming will be over the next few years. What will games that are as yet unreleased, but currently in beta requiring to run flat out? Wait until 2 or 3 major new component technologies come out about the same time. CPU/GPU/RAM are the core of a system. Match them well on a cutting edge MB and you're in great shape for 4 or 5 years minimum.


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#4265372 - 05/30/16 11:02 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Could somebody (preferably a wizard like Ancor) explain in words of few syllables with no TLA's what exactly does DirectX 9 do that DirectX 11 doesn't do? And how does he manage to move some of the processing to the video card and away from the single CPU core?

I am running Process Lasso and run WOFF and CFS3 on one core and everything else on the other 3. I think this should be a good idea. Does anyone do the same thing?

Hey Buff1, I at least have an Antec case but everything else is somewhat mid-range. The case weighs a ton winkngrin


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#4265455 - 05/30/16 04:21 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: JimAttrill]  
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Hey Buff1, I at least have an Antec case but everything else is somewhat mid-range. The case weighs a ton winkngrin


Gotta love those tight, heavy Antec boxes... Mine is also lined with Acoustipack and has 100% rubber mountings. With a Puget Hydro CL3 Liquid Cooling System and super quiet fans, you don't even know its running...

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#4265468 - 05/30/16 05:15 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Originally Posted By: Hellshade
Originally Posted By: dutch
As a ww1 flysim player on a 2560/1440 monitor this could be also an very intresting option, think a GTX1080 would be a little bit overkill in my situation.



You say Overkill. I call it "future proofing." I haven't heard about a DirectX 12 compatible WOFF 4 yet, but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. LOL



There will no Woff4 and I see no furhter inprovements on Rof. So I guess these game will not going on to going futher, right now my actual card can handle Woff (nearly all on max) and rof very well on supersampling, only Rof using the channel map and supersampling is still asking for low FPS, in this case the FuryX or GTX980ti will come in the picture. But who knows if Im going for a 4k monitor and/or going to play Battlefield1 or maybe a new directX12 WW1 flysim then I have to go for something like the GTX1080ti or 1085. But right now based on what my GPU is using, the GTX1080 would be an overkill.

#4267504 - 06/06/16 11:08 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Saw a video on YouTube from a new owner of a 1080.
His old card was a GTX970 - like mine by the way.
He did a side by side FPS comparison in Elite:Dangerous in a (as much as possible in Elite) identical situation in-game.
The 1080 was literally double the 970's FPS at all times. Mighty impressive.

If I thought it might fit in my tower I may take a closer look at it but I had to almost shoehorn the 970 in - I will presume this card is no smaller (or has less of a power draw) but tech marches on...who knows?

#4267513 - 06/06/16 11:32 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
There will no Woff4 and I see no furhter inprovements on Rof.


That's probably true however:

It's possible that OBD will come back to WOFF in the future, especially if they come up with some new tricks in their new sim...they may wish to create a WOFF 4 that further updates the engine again. Unlikely and definitely not promised, but possible.

Even if WOFF is truly no longer in major development and ROF has ceased all development, there will still be new Sims and games coming out that will take advantage of the 1080s processing power. BF1 hardly qualifies as a sim, but it would still be fun to run it on max eye candy detail.

And I already do have a 4k monitor. I bought it in anticipation of the day when somebody produced a single card that would fully use it. So I'm hoping the 1080 ti can run 4k gaming on max details. Think of the WOFF 3 screenshots!

Certainly the 1080 cards are not for everyone, but they aren't for nobody either. It's the perfect upgrade from my old 780 ti so I'm looking forward to its greater memory and faster processing power advantages.


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#4267526 - 06/06/16 12:45 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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I've posted in other threads about me always being a AMD guy ,and at last they seem to be getting their drivers in order. (I'm really liking the Crimson drivers)..but my next card is going to be an Nvidia 1070 or 1080. I agree with you Hellshade it's all about future proofing. I don't just play WOFF I play a few graphically intensive games,I've a 2k monitor with a fantastic R9 390 but titles like Witcher 3 will not run at 60fps maxed out,it runs smoothly enough but I want more winkngrin.

Me personally I'm going wait a few months,and see what the third party manufacturers come out with (Sapphire,Msi Gigabyte) and then shop around.
It wouldn't be as big an upgrade from my card as it is from your 780ti ..but I still feel it's big enough for the jump.

Let us know when you get your card pal, and your findings with it..I hopefully will get one as a Christmas present..if I'm good thumbsup


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#4267632 - 06/06/16 05:19 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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I was hoping that OBD would go for a new game engine like DCS or Clod, but right now it seems that Woff3 and Rof are the last of a kind. WW1 is a small market and yes will will see new WW1 flysims like vDeutsmark CanvasKnights, but I do not take this kind of 2004 graphics serius as a succesor for Rof nor Woff.
Geuss you are all lucky because your can hop to other games, but I been hooked to WW1. Sometimes I do try Something else like Clod, Bos or il2-1946, only for a short period.

About Battle flied I think, as an campaign player, this is not my game. My son will buy this game and who knows some modder could make an Rof-PWCG or Woff4 look-a-like. Think that could be the time to get new Vega.

#4267662 - 06/06/16 07:02 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Veering slightly off topic, but given the realities of the flight Sim market in general and the WWI flight Sim market in particular, I'm not holding my breath for a new WWI flight Sim for a very, very long time. More likely they will add WWI planes to World of Planes or something like that. But a deep single player WWI flight Sim that's historically accurate? Too expensive to build for too small an audience. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

As for Vega, I can't wait to see what AMD unveils. I'm definitely an Nvidia guy, but without competition from AMD I'm sure development would slow considerably, so I always cheer both sides.

When 3rd party 1080 ti cards with better coolers come out, I will be happy to give a report on how well it does, but really the report for WOFF will probably just be perfect 60 fps at 2k under every circumstance except high time compression rates which I presume is a more CPU intensive task. Time will tell though.

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#4267669 - 06/06/16 07:26 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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It seems that AMD does the job better on Battlefield so if wanting to go to this direction, (I hope they will mod it to a WoFF style flysim) the Vega would be a much better choice. If running a 4k you have no choice in going a big step higher even the GTX980ti seems to have troubles in running this mode, only for me running a 2560x1440 this is absolute not the case. The only problem is I can not run RoF channel map in Supersampling, which is still the best adjustment for your game graphics. And now lots of fooks are going for the GTX1080 a secondhand FuryX or GTX980ti will be affordable.

Yeah that's what i'm afraid off, after 2018 nothing will come out for this limited niche and if so then it will be an online Warthunder look-a-like or an old cartoonish look. Lets enjoy this RoF and Woff period.

#4268843 - 06/10/16 12:22 PM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Hi Shredward

Can you please let me know your setting. I have recently purchases a gaming pc with a 980Ti, but have not had the time to fly WOFF - RL getting in the way! I am now able to spend time on WOFF and would like to get an idea of the workshop settings?

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#4269119 - 06/11/16 09:48 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Sorry Mate,
I'm off in the boonies, and will be for another 5 weeks. I'll try to remember to do it then. I do remember that I had scenery, clouds and everything else set at max, with no issues.
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Cheers Shredward

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#4269283 - 06/12/16 12:28 AM Re: Did you want to pre-order a GTX 1080? Too late. Sold out in 6 minutes [Re: Hellshade]  
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Question for the GTX 980 ti owners: What kind of FPS do you get flying over the front in 1918 while at 4X or 8X time compression?


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