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#4267113 - 06/05/16 12:15 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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The Paradox forums are like Steam forums, always full of negativity... most of those people will nitpick the best of things.

I just ignore them, from watching these let's plays, it looks terrific and I look forward to playing it:





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#4267312 - 06/05/16 06:13 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Heart of Iron IV beginners videos from Paradox:


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#4267362 - 06/05/16 09:34 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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I've been hanging out there for a few years and I get what you guys are saying. I know the scoop. But it just seemed to be something to it this time. Anyhow, I'll still get it. And even if it were to have some serious issues it'll be worked out, as Paradox is known for doing.

Who is playing who for the first game.

I still haven't decided. Prolly Murica.


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#4267369 - 06/05/16 09:53 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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I'll probably try Germany for my first one, should be decently strong in the early game while I learn.


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#4267486 - 06/06/16 10:28 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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I haven't decided either, but either Murica (cuz Murica) or Germany.


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#4267509 - 06/06/16 11:18 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Sweden. It's a Paradox game, you know they'll be op. Nazi Germany look out, world conquest by 1937 for sure.

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#4267548 - 06/06/16 02:11 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Happy release day.

Whoever gets it please remember to pause and come here for an update and let us know what your early impressions are.

I probably won't pick it up today as I have another game I want to finish and if I get HOI I probably won't.


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#4267636 - 06/06/16 05:48 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Download on Steam is less than a gig. Paradox, if nothing else, is great about the footprint of their games, and size of the updates, DLC, etc. When I get a DLC for EU IV, I have to double check that it actually installed. It's so small I miss it entirely.

So HOI will download in less than 5 minutes. Not bad!

Early indications on Paradox forums seem about normal. No major dramas, but the usual assortment of pet issues that always dominate at this point. You know, great game, but I want a refund because there is no achievement for Laos, and my neighbor three doors down is from Laos!

I'm such a map guy. Love maps. Liking what I see from the HOI maps. So who has kicked off their adventure?


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#4267797 - 06/07/16 02:50 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Pretty disappointed with it so far. They've stripped out too much of what I liked about HOI III. That might come in time with DLC. I hope they re-introduce more information screens. I appreciate the fact that they tried to clean up the interface and condense data down to one screen but there's just too much important information that's not available to the player.

I'm going to put this one on the back burner for a while until it gets more polish.


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#4267815 - 06/07/16 04:39 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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I tried a quick "what the heck am I doing" camnpaign as Germany.

Supported Franco and managed to win the Spanish Civil War.
Took the diplomatic road, and allied the heck out of everyone I could.
Eventually I got pulled into Hungary's war with Czechoslovakia, which triggered the full war.
Decided to try to break the Maginot Line - ouch! I think the battle for one province went on for 2 years.
Italy rolled up France from the south and eventually conquered it(!).
Soviet Union picked off my allies one at a time..

Ended it when I went to bed, intesterest to see how I could turn it around (I didn't have the "historical focus" activated).

#4267850 - 06/07/16 10:28 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Got it and am still learning. Some things I like very much (how armies, fronts and battle plans now work), some things I'm not sure about (AI blunders when on defense).


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#4268243 - 06/08/16 01:21 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Thanks for the reports. How's the performance? Does it run well? I might wait for the first couple of hotfixes/patches before picking it up.


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Runs silky smooth for me. Even loads up a good bit quicker than EU4.


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#4268633 - 06/09/16 02:56 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Thanks SDE, how do you like the game?


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#4268705 - 06/09/16 07:58 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Right now I think there are a couple of problems with the game. There isn't a lot of feedback, from the lack of messages when a new division gets activated or a battleship is produced to the lack of information when enemy armies invade your territory or information about the air war. The battle plans are kinda wonky, with the AI constantly shuffling units around in the operations zone and not using units (especially tank and motorized divisions) correctly. The GUI for theaters/armies is well done and easily accessible, but commanding fleets and air wings is unnecessary complicated and not very intuitive. And the AI is from my experience pretty prone to stupid blunders.

The game has potential, but ATM I doubt I will play much more until at least some of the major problems are fixed.

And releasing a game like HoI 4 without a manual and instead relying on a Wiki page is a bloody shame.


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#4268799 - 06/10/16 04:51 AM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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Originally Posted By: DBond
Thanks SDE, how do you like the game?


As others have said there is a huge amount of room for improvement in almost every area of the game. Nevertheless HoI4 is quite enjoyable. Much better than HoI 3 without expansions that's for sure. smile

I also don't play as 'hardcore' as some people so what might be a minor issue for me could be game-breaking for others.


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I had it and got a Steam refund. Without a manual....and the Wiki is L A M E, makes it impossible to play well.

Back to War in the Pacific for me...


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#4268862 - 06/10/16 01:59 PM Re: Hearts of Iron IV [Re: DBond]  
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With the caveat that I haven't played it yet, it's disappointing that between Stellaris and HOI, Paradox has just had two lackluster releases. We've talked about how Paradox continues to evolve their games and they have a track record of continued support and improvement. But still, they aren't helping themselves by releasing games that core audience players are finding incomplete.

Both of these games could be masterpieces a year from now, and I look at games like EU IV to show how much improvement and evolution Paradox games can undergo when they've had some time to season. But if you want to expand your customer base, you need to have a great game at launch, or those new players are going to give it a miss.


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Yes. There are many things that HoI4 really does very well. But I can't help but feel the game has been released 6 months too early.


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Now that the games been out for a few days does anyone want to share some tips or tricks?

I've been wondering about the Air Forces, in particular strategic bombers. I can't see any obvious way to see what, if any damage they're doing to industry. Seems negligible. Maybe it adds up over several months..?
Instead I've focused on fighters and cas/tac bombers. The fighters give the air superiority modifier which helps out in battles and the light bombers inflict a (small) amount of damage to the enemy's organisation.

So, are strat bombers worth it at all or I am better off saving my factories for something else? Maybe replacing towed arty with sp.


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