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#4267108 - 06/04/16 11:44 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Thanks for the links, Archer !

Barkhorn, not sure actually, but I think so.
I only just started. Today I sailed my first boat, a 10-cannon cutter.
I sailed in co-op with a friend, and then it is BIG fun.

2. No, NAVAL ACTION seems to concentrate on battles between human players,
but not historical single player missions.
But, as i said, I'm still beginning - and the sim is still a Beta version.
(Though everyting seems to work great already).


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#4267299 - 06/05/16 05:30 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: Barkhorn1x]  
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Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
Originally Posted By: Olham

2. this gives newbies a better chance. If the experienced comanders could all jump in
with the big ships, there might be too little prey (and chances) for thze small ones?

3. there seem to be battle modes like "Trafalgar", where you need a minimum amount of ships.
But I guess that is not what you meant.



2. Not really interested in MP. But I guess it's all MP, correct?
3. Interested in historic battle scenarios like those found in Age of Sail II



I started on the PvE server so I could get used to the movement/sailing, and especially the gunnery. The cutter is actually a lot of fun- it's maneuverable, sturdy, and when you can upgrade your cannons to six pounders it packs a nice wallop. Still getting the hand of rolling broadsides and the various ways to set the focus of the gun divisions (plus seeing what the various effects of bow v. stern rakes, chainshot etc.) Haven't been able to board anyone. Love the selection of nations you can choose to sail for. Sim is still Alpha state but is smooth and playable (I have an older PC) and the devs are continually testing things and tweaking bits.



@Archer-- thanks much for the link! Tis appreciated biggrin


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#4267308 - 06/05/16 05:58 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: Leaf85]  
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Originally Posted By: Leaf85
Haven't been able to board anyone.

Leaf, just load

- cannon ball ammo to demolish the ship
- chain ball ammo to shredder the sails and maybe bring down a mast
- "grape" ammo (like a big pump gun) to kill the crew

For "Boarding" you press 9 - then you see red numbers for progress
of the boarding preparations.
When that is full, you must sail very close to the other ship.
At some point, a yellow text-line will appear and ask you to press
the key you use for "Board enemy ship".
Do that, and a fight from deck to deck will begin.
You can click on buttons like "Fire muskets" or "Fire grenades" then.
Not sure what that all does, but you can count you will circa lose
one man for every enemy crew man.
So better decimate them with "grape" ammo before you enter.

You will need to enter trader vessels, to gain some loot, to make money,
or to find goods for crafting something.
You can send the defeated vessel to your harbour, or you can "capture" it
by pressing the letter you use for "Capture" - then you will change ships.

You should only attack "trader cutters" or "trader Lynx" without cannons first,
to get the idea. Afer the fight you press Escape, leave the fight, and now you see
a menue with the loot in the other ship. You can move that into your own boat.
Or as much as it gets. When the whole amount doesn't fit, right-click on the
prey, and now you can divide it into portions to your likes.
Add small portions, until your boat store is full.
Bring it all back to one of your harbours, put it into the warehouse,
go to "Shop" and sell it.


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#4267357 - 06/05/16 09:25 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Still unsure of how this ting works. Is there a Wiki?


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#4267365 - 06/05/16 09:44 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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There is the "Big List of Naval Action Guides" - maybe you find a YouTube
video explaining the Boarding.

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/12426-the-big-list-of-naval-action-guides/


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#4267418 - 06/06/16 02:16 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Luv the idea of a sailing ship sim.

But I have to say that what I have seen in the various videos posted that it looks most unrealistic weather and sea wise. No pitching, no rolling and no lousy weather, which invariably it was.

Or am I being too critical?


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#4267451 - 06/06/16 06:24 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: Boom]  
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Originally Posted By: PipsPriller
Luv the idea of a sailing ship sim.

But I have to say that what I have seen in the various videos posted that it looks most unrealistic weather and sea wise. No pitching, no rolling and no lousy weather, which invariably it was.

Or am I being too critical?


They do have sea states (maybe max. sea state 4?) in this current build, swells and rolls have to be properly timed with regards to gunnery-- from both your point of view and the targets. Have fought one battle against AI in a rain squall. You can learn to manually control your sails, or allow a AI skipper to do so-- depending on how much you want to manage/delegate-- which will make a difference in how your ship responds in the weather. What I haven't been able to tell yet is the wind force/get a feel for it. I've seen video where ships have tried doing battle in some pretty nasty weather so I'm imagining that the devs will put full weather in (if they haven't already and I just haven't seen more than SS4). smile


@Olham-- thank you my friend I will attempt to follow your advice and get some boarding in now!


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#4267463 - 06/06/16 07:11 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Hey, Pips - welcome abord!

Many of the videos are from a NAVAL ACTION version before the big patch.
Now it has rolling sea, with wave peaks and valleys, which make it hard
to aim and hit, as Leaf85 already said.
I have seen rain and thunderstorms, so the weather definitely changes.

The waves, the water, and the whole rolling of the ship look brilliant IMHO.
Check out this video - you see some rougher weather here:



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#4267551 - 06/06/16 02:19 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
Still unsure of how this ting works. Is there a Wiki?


communitybased
http://navalaction.wikia.com/wiki/NavalAction_Wikia

Hint: ask in your nation-chat, if someone can do some missions with you to teach you. Learn the basics, especially manual sailing, as soon as there's more than one mast.
Many start on the PvE-Server and change to PvP later. When switching the servers, you'll take your rank, xp and crafting-level with you. Nothing else.

It won't take long to get used to all the necessary stuff. Afterwards it's all about practise, practise, practise.

Have fun. Maybe we'll see us somwehere at the open sea.

#4267605 - 06/06/16 03:49 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
There is the "Big List of Naval Action Guides" - maybe you find a YouTube
video explaining the Boarding.

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/12426-the-big-list-of-naval-action-guides/


TY for that link Olham. I will take a look.


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#4268977 - 06/10/16 08:15 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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OK, took the plunge [Only $40 and my birthday’s next week so…] and, oh my, what an odd bird this is. I went on a couple of missions in the PVE server in my cutter and fought some pirates. Lost both times but I know that will change as I get used to the UI.

I really do like the battle interface and the battles are fun and immersive. Graphics are nice and the gunnery and damage models look good to me. Sea modeling and lighting/shadows are well done as is weather.
But the main UI? Yea, nothing says “Classic Age of Sail” like dark gray boxes on a light gray background. [Still “Alpha”…yea I get it] but yuck.


And what does this game want to be? I guess it aims to be an MMP for age of sail naval combat? If so, that’s kind of slicing the onion a little too finely, no? So, it’s not as fine as, say, “Boxer Rebellion MMP” but it sure ain’t WWII and I am concerned that there is a limited market out there for this sort of thing. And releasing on Steam in Alpha? Umm…not sure that this was a good idea as Steam kiddies don’t have long attention spans.

I for one am not an MP guy and really do not like the leveling up aspect that unlocks heavier guns and larger ships. I was hoping to get a 3rd rate right away but now I gotta really work for that. It seems that the SP guys are really not catered to at all here and that’s going to limit the games audience.

The limited ship models available is also an issue:
- If I were the devs I would a. Make more ship models the #1 priority and b. Concentrate initially on representative choices
- With this in mind the devs made some really odd choices; Santisima Trinidad? Ingermanland? These models are very nicely done but a nice French ’80 or a Spanish ‘112 would have been more welcome
- Well they did come thru on more representative ships in terms of the Victory, Bellona and Constitution.
- But why not use these to churn out their sisters to build very representative fleets?

Bottom line for me; I will stick with it for now and try to level up to a respectable frigate level but kinda pissed that I even have to do so.

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#4269115 - 06/11/16 09:06 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: Barkhorn1x]  
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Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
...nothing says “Classic Age of Sail” like dark gray boxes on a light gray background.
[Still “Alpha”…yea I get it] but yuck.

True - that should definitely be changed into something more atmospheric.
At least the colours and type styles.

Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
...not sure that this was a good idea as Steam kiddies don’t have long attention spans.

This is not for those hyperactive kids, I guess.

Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
I was hoping to get a 3rd rate right away but now I gotta really work for that.

That's good IMHO. You have to make your way up like in the real Navies,
and you get the big ones only when you earned and deserve them.
Arcade players, who just want to battle, will find something else.
You cannot breed an egg-laying woolmilk hog, as we say in German (in German, of course! biggrin )

Originally Posted By: Barkhorn1x
I will stick with it for now and try to level up to a respectable frigate level
but kinda pissed that I even have to do so.

You may change your mind.
I am two ranks up now and can sail a Brig. My friend bought himself a "Surprise" yesterday -
a light frigatt, and a most beautiful one.
Of course I envy him. But the fighting in the Brig is also great fun - and I'll get there.
Sail with friends, and you will like it!


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#4269557 - 06/13/16 03:07 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Herr Olham:

I also am still working on getting a 3rd rate, but it does take time and gold. I do have a French built Frigate its kind like a Newport fast but cant take a lot of hits. a 20 gunner Sloop ? good for harbor defense and of course, a Cutter. Just my 2 cents, the Heavy Corvette Surprise does seem the way to go. It has staying power or a Navy Brig built of Oak. Have fun. popcorn

#4269683 - 06/13/16 04:16 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Hey, Carrick!
Being "Albatros-Man" and all for beauty, I would love to sail a MERCURY soon,
and later the amazing RENOMÉE. SURPRISE is looking more stable though indeed.
Well, I'm still learning (painfully).

Are you on one of the American servers?
Can one have 1 character on each server, maybe? (I want a CONSTITUTION).


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#4270039 - 06/14/16 04:02 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Yes sir ! I use Pve One USA. Currently, under the Kings Charter to Plunder or take French vessels as Prize off St. Nicolas. ( I picked the British because of Port Royal's Location on the trade routes. ) I have been using the 32 Gun RENOMMEE Class ship. In my opinion, the Mercury and Niagara are pretty closed to each other although the Niagara has less Sea keeping quality due to being a low slung 18 ? Gun Flush Decker. In addition, its not good a pirate ship because of lack of cargo space for the loot. U may want to Compare the Constitution with the Trincomalee a better turning low slung 50 Gun 5th Rate. I don't know about the server's but will check. If U decide to become a Smuggler then the Privateer may be best. May the wind be at your back thumbsup


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#4270245 - 06/15/16 09:24 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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I have a Privateer and a Brigg, Carrick.
With a friend, I am sailing for Denmark-Norway, around the Leeward Islands in the northeast of the map.
We communicate via TeamSpeak. Big fun!
Your American servers unfortunately have different "play times", at least 6 hours retarded to ours.
When you play, we go to bed here, I guess.

Next ships I'd like to sail are the MERCURY, and then the RENOMMÉE.
The Constitution is one I always loved - had a REVELL model of it as a kid!

I wish you always good wind and 5 inches of water under the keel!


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Wow, six hours difference. Aye Matey, Due U guys sail against all flags or just the English or Spanish ? I had a 1/72nd Albatross D-5 as a kid along with others that I cant remember. I don't use team speak,but on Occasion I will join in Fleet or Port Battles on Sundays. So far I got sunk only one time. I went in close to a 3 decker and his boardside put me in sinking mode. Ar , there be fair winds for ye. Yo, ho, ho, and a bottle of Rum.

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Due U guys sail against all flags or just the English or Spanish ?

Our main enemies up there are the British, who come from the west.
Ports in the clashing area (like Higüey) are changing forth and back. ahoy

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...on Occasion I will join in Fleet or Port Battles on Sundays.

How are port battles going?

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Yo, ho, ho, and a bottle of Rum.

...and a bottllllllllll - of Rum! yep


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#4272529 - 06/23/16 11:28 AM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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When aiming, we see that bright area on the water, to show us where the broadside would go.
But there is a diagonal additional angle within that area - what exactly does that show???


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#4274183 - 06/28/16 03:29 PM Re: Naval Action [Re: bogusheadbox]  
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Thoroughly enjoying this game. I'm just playing casually and have almost risen above 2nd Lieutenant, and have been sailing around in a brig and as of last evening a Navy brig. Currently enjoying the environs of the PVE server; flag is USN, name Harrison Wilson. Not sure how much I should bother with learning the craft system (I'm assuming there will be a wipe or partial wipe when the game is released as "Gold"??) but I've a small factory producing live oak pieces. Looking forward to seeing whats over the horizon for Naval Action.


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