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#4255604 - 05/03/16 07:49 PM Luftwaffe controls for simmers  
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Dear fellow simmers,

I would like to represent you some very special equipment.
I got to know a guy who has worked some 20 years in a well-known vintage aircraft workshop as restaurateur. You have possibly seen plenty warbirds at air shows and museums around the world which included parts made by him.

Now he decided to start a small side business using his expertise and make some awesome Luftwaffe control parts for collectors, restaurateurs and for us, simmers at a reasonable price. I became totally crazy when I saw his products, and I am quite sure that you will be impressed as well.

All these equipment are museum quality replicas created according to original blueprints and parts using similar or identical materials. These are the real things which can be mounted into actual aircraft at will.

Here is his offer:
(I hope you don`t mind some pictures:) )

1. KG13 Knüppelgriff, the well-known control grip of all the major Luftwaffe fighters (Bf109, Bf110, Fw190, ME262, Ju87 etc...)















- Aluminium grip with on-moulded knurl patterned plastic coating on the gripping surface, just like the original.
- Steel trigger with flip-up function
- Steel side button clamp
- Aluminium junction box, underneath Bakelite terminal plate with brass wire connectors
- Machined, anodized aluminium press button assemblies, travel and spring force according to the originals. Integrated micro switches on demand

It is straight forward connection to any general control cards like leo bodnar`s. Adapting it to TM warthog or to VKB base should be quite easy as well with an additional Shift Register PCB and the right fittings.

Price: 600EUR + shipping

2. Bf109F,G,K Rudder Pedal Assembly

Rudder assembly with complete mechanism, pedals, brake cylinder assemblies and platform for the motor cannon.







- Aluminium and steel construction acc. to original plans.
- Ball bearings in the pivoting points
- Brake cylinders acc. to original specifications.

It would require some work to make it simulator friendly, but it is entirely possible.
Think about it. Some expansion springs attached to the wire connectors, a hall sensor in the main pivot point and a load cell in each cylinders, and there you go.

Price: 1400EUR + shipping

He has complete control column assemblies for both the bf109 and the fw190, but I feel they are not really suitable for simulator usage.

If you are interested send me a message and I will assist you to get in touch with the Man!
Cheers
MM

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#4257829 - 05/08/16 01:42 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Okay! Lets see a FW or 109 Throttle! biggrin

Those look fantastic btw!

#4257946 - 05/08/16 06:17 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I woant to See it too

#4258191 - 05/09/16 12:34 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: Beazil]  
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Originally Posted By: Beazil
Okay! Lets see a FW or 109 Throttle! biggrin

Those look fantastic btw!


This.

Everyone seems to be making sticks and pedals. meanwhile throttles seem to get no love frown

WWII prop planes had a LOT of axial controls to manage; throttle, mixture, prop rpm, manifold pressure, oil cooler flaps, cowl flaps, etc.

Hard to control all that with pedals...


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#4258388 - 05/09/16 08:00 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Well, as much as I know throttles are not in the pipeline at the moment. I can ask of course.

By the way they are available from arsenal 45. German throttles have only a few axis since most of the engine / cooling controls were automated.

#4258455 - 05/09/16 11:03 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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#4264989 - 05/28/16 08:37 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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What a beauty, I will spread the word smile If I only had seen this earlier wink

#4265265 - 05/29/16 08:50 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Well, these never go out of fashion:)

#4267360 - 06/05/16 09:31 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I got the KG13.

As VO101MMaister said it is a thing of beauty. The transaction went well and received the grip came in a few days.

Thanks


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#4267885 - 06/07/16 12:54 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Steven,

thanks for the public update. Have you installed it onto your Tarmac base?

MM

#4268865 - 06/10/16 02:01 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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No not yet.
I am waiting for one of Baur's units. Then I will see what I can do.

It is so nice that I may just ad it to the collection.


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RaptorX 300 gig w/500 gig backup drive
2) GTX 480 Hydro copper,Koolance water system
Dell 2405 FP monitor
Creative X-Fi Exteme
Track4Pro/ Vector 6DOF
Bu0836 controller/ Simped pedals
#4569861 - 05/25/21 09:01 AM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Sorry to bring this thread up from the depths but does anyone have the contact details of the fella that is making these controls
Unfortunately MMaister nor Steven visit SimHQ anymore.
I'd love a cast KG for my pit, but have drawn blanks everywhere and cant find any more info on these controls

#4570248 - 05/28/21 09:33 AM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Try downloading a 3D model then print one?
https://grabcad.com/library/kg-13-flight-control-grip-1

#4570277 - 05/28/21 02:37 PM Re: Luftwaffe controls for simmers [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Thanks Spitty, but I have a couple of printed KG. This fella was making cast ally sticks, proper repops of the original

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