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#3722093 - 01/21/13 02:07 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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I'm a little worried how the planes will look. I hope they use minimal CGI and try to use the real stuff as much as possible.


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#3722097 - 01/21/13 02:18 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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Most anticipated. smile

But I wonder how long it will take them to get the wheels turning?

And to our British and Commonwealth friends across the ocean.. what happened to the highly anticipated "Dambusters" movie?


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#3722125 - 01/21/13 03:21 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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I'll be cautiously optimistic. Band of Brothers was fantastic, The Pacific a little disjointed, but if they can tell the story of the 8th and place it in the broader perspective of the joint Allied bomber campaign, it should be watchable.

Re. The Dambusters remake; apparently Peter Jackson is under the impression that he has to do movies about elves and middle-earth first. If someone asks me, I'd say his priorities could do with some major readjusting!


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#3722126 - 01/21/13 03:21 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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I too would love to see some WW2 Pacific carrier ops. Maybe they could throw some into the mix. I too would like to see mostly the real aircraft but to produce some of the scenarios they want to they'll need CG. In the right hands I think it can definitaley be presented very well.

Spielberg's Taken had a scene in the beginning with CG bombers and mustangs and such and I recall that looking pretty good and that is already a 10 year old project.


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#3722131 - 01/21/13 03:29 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: HogDriver]  
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Originally Posted By: HogDriver


You'd never see the German side from Spielberg, unless that side was about a fictional psycho SS officer who liked to cut the hands off of babies and make human lamp shades. rolleyes I agree that it would be interesting to have a series from the German perspective.
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I agree with your sentiment but there are three major things to consider:

1. Spielberg is Jewish
2. His father served in WW 2.
3. American audiences would never go see a WW 2 film from the German perspective.


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#3722133 - 01/21/13 03:32 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
3. American audiences would never go see a WW 2 film from the German perspective.


Why?


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#3722135 - 01/21/13 03:38 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Mace71]  
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Originally Posted By: MaceUK33
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
3. American audiences would never go see a WW 2 film from the German perspective.


Why?
It's mostly due to political correctness but war movies in general simply don't do that well at the box office. There are rare exceptions of course like Saving Private Ryan and Top Gun but there have been a ton of movies even from the US perspective that bombed at the box office. Of course the same applies to the Japanese. "Letters from Iwo Jima" is an excellent film but it was mostly ignored at the box office.


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#3722139 - 01/21/13 03:46 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Of course the same applies to the Japanese. "Letters from Iwo Jima" is an excellent film but it was mostly ignored at the box office.


indeed, a great movie, i tried to get people i know to watch it, the main reply "if i wanted to read i'd get a book" (the films all subtitles)


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#3722142 - 01/21/13 03:52 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Meatsheild]  
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Originally Posted By: Meatsheild


the main reply "if i wanted to read i'd get a book" (the films all subtitles)
Or they could simply learn Japanese. biggrin

It never ceases to amaze me how many people have told me that they would never watch a film with subtitles because it will either bore them or it would be too "hard".

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#3722939 - 01/22/13 08:31 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: kestrel79]  
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Originally Posted By: kestrel79
I'm a little worried how the planes will look. I hope they use minimal CGI and try to use the real stuff as much as possible.


The thing about CGI is it's budget-scalable. Spend a lot and it looks great, but if you don't have a lot to spend you can still do it and make it "ok." Unlike the 80s, we have very few flying WWII birds around nowadays and few will do anything other than takeoff, land, and fly in straight lines for fear of the thing wrecking.

Good miniatures can do a lot (as Top Gun proved), but CGI is what will be used. Maybe you'll see a real plane taxi here and there and we'll get shots of them climbing in and out of real planes, but that's about it.

Red Tails had a budget of $58m and used extensive CGI for the flying. This will have probably close to the budget that The Pacific had ($100m that ballooned to well over $200m) but even so I would imagine it's not going to be possible to show massive air battles any other way than with CGI. I suppose hand animation...



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#3725244 - 01/26/13 03:13 AM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Mace71]  
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Originally Posted By: MaceUK33
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
3. American audiences would never go see a WW 2 film from the German perspective.


Why?


No one would want to see the truth.

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#3725272 - 01/26/13 04:17 AM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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I am glad Speilberg and Hanks are making this film. I hope they get a chance to do another for the guys who served at sea.

Sadly WWII is getting to be a long time back for a big chunk of the population. People that I knew well and a good number of close family served in WWII, which is true for a number of folks on this site; but it is becoming "ancient history" for people under 40.

#3725526 - 01/26/13 05:58 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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I'm pretty excited their doing the 8th Air Force biggrin But I'd would have rather them focused on a fighter group versus bombers. Not knocking the bomber guys but I think a story focusing on either the 4th, 352nd, 357th, or 56th Fighter Groups would just make for much more interesting viewing for the general public, especially learning more about famous aces like Yeager, Gabreski, Bud Anderson, Godfrey etc... But I'm gonna watch it and most likely buy the series just like I've done with Band of Brothers and the Pacific, Speilberg and Tom Hanks definitely know what their doing when it comes to WWII thumbsup

As far as a movie from the enemy's point of view, Letters From Iwo Jima; Stalingrad; Oba The Last Samurai (Japanese made film about some of the last soldiers to surrender during WWII); For Those We Love (Japanese made film about kamikaze pilots) were all really good.

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Originally Posted By: reconmercs

As far as a movie from the enemy's point of view, Letters From Iwo Jima; Stalingrad; Oba The Last Samurai (Japanese made film about some of the last soldiers to surrender during WWII); For Those We Love (Japanese made film about kamikaze pilots) were all really good.
I'd also like to add Das Boot, Der Untergang (ok not strictly a war film but close enough) and Cross of Iron.


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#4264130 - 05/26/16 01:13 PM Re: Spielberg and Hanks to follow with third WWII miniseries [Re: Zeus]  
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Whatever happened to this?

It's been in development for 3 years now!

Still showing in development on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2640044/

Come on Spielberg and Hanks.

Stop lollygagging!

Instead of making another Robert Langdon film or another Real Steel film, get this done.

But Steven, don't let this get in your way of making Gremlins 3.

That's important too!

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Originally Posted By: CG2015
Whatever happened to this?

It's been in development for 3 years now!

Still showing in development on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2640044/

Come on Spielberg and Hanks.

Stop lollygagging!

Instead of making another Robert Langdon film or another Real Steel film, get this done.

But Steven, don't let this get in your way of making Gremlins 3.

That's important too!



I read through the IMDB message board and found this,


"I work in the film industry and if what the others say is correct that they're interviewing the veterans chances are they're in very early pre production, as in, the scripts aren't even written yet, they're gathering research material to put into the scripts.

So chances are they'll set up some production offices early 2015 in order to write the scripts etc, then go into production late 2015 with an expected air date of 2018/2019 depending on how close to script writing they are right now."


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2018-2019? That's a long long way.

There will be at least 3 more Star Wars films already out by then.

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We had a thread about this recently over at Battlefront's forum. I'm landser there. There is a video in that thread. Evidently it was an early concept vid so probably not too much should be taken from it. But it's here is you want to have a look

http://community.battlefront.com/topic/1...out-the-8th-af/


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A shame, I think "Wild Blue" by Ambrose might have been a better outing, detailing fighting with the 15th Air Force.

Everyone knows about the "Mighty Eight", but the contributions of the other US Air Forces I feel is overlooked.

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Originally Posted By: EAF331 MadDog
A shame, I think "Wild Blue" by Ambrose might have been a better outing, detailing fighting with the 15th Air Force.

Everyone knows about the "Mighty Eight", but the contributions of the other US Air Forces I feel is overlooked.

That's because the general US public is ignorant about the Italian/Balkans theatre of operations during WWII and thus a mini-series about it would have very limited appeal.

Just look at what happened to "The Pacific". The ratings for it weren't anywhere near the ratings for "Band of Brothers".


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