Daniel Craig is 48 and IMHO he looks just fine for his age. I disagree that he's looking too old to play the role.

I don't think that romance is really a female mindset, that's a male mindset. Women don't have to be as romantic or charming or anything like this, males find them attractive already. In the development of our species, it's not worked that way where women initiated romance on males. Women make themselves available, and then men are the ones who do the courtship rituals.

Well, there's an old saying- women spread for the conquerors. History is full of examples of women changing sides and becoming the war brides of the Romans, the Ghengis Khans, or whomever it happens to be. That's why it comes off a bit contrived to me.

In fantasy you can have strong, independent female heroines and things like this, which I think sparks men's interest, because that is a sort of fantasy- it's fantasy because it's not often encountered in real life. Despite all the messages about women are just as independent, I never see this in real life, it's really nonsense. Even the most independent women I've ever met were never really as independent as males have to be to get through life. Women always know how to flirt with men to get them to do things, that's a large part of how women get through life. If you take that out, women are not as in good as shape.

It's not to say that women don't have power, but it works indirectly- that is, through the males they are able to seduce, influence or manipulate. I think it works better with men being the powerful characters and women seducing them and leading them potentially to their own destruction. That's what Bond always has to face- seductive women who are capable of trying to kill him at the same time, they can't fully be trusted. So it's always potentially a lethal game with the women he deals with, and he knows this. That's also what makes him so incredibly suave, he doesn't get attached to them.

+1 Mechanus

I'd like to see Idris Elba get the role, colour is irrelevant and I think he could make a good Bond.

I think the female agent thing has been done to death over the last decade or two even more than the male spy. And most using the same character.
La Femme Nikita...original movie
Point of No Return...US remake
La Femme Nikita...tv series remake with Peta Wilson (awesome)
Nikita...tv continuation, I think...Maggie Q

Alias...JJ Abrams' Nikita
Blindspot
Most Angelina Jolie movies

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When you have two dozen Bond films along with the other copy cats and also-rans, not to mention the Bourne films, the total number of female agent to male agent films is still heavily in the male category. If you want to start artificially partitioning what does and doesn't count by picking dates or whatever, well, there have been no female spy films released in the last 24 hours, so it's pretty sparse.

TV doesn't count, that's separate from film. Unless of course you want to point out that for every time there is a male agent film they make a female agent TV show, which is also a bit of a disparity, wouldn't you say?



The Jedi Master

This, however, is an issue quite different than casting James Bond with an actress.

They could make the greatest spy movie ever with a fat Asian chick in the lead and ruin it by calling her 007.

If we're just going to change sex and race of characters for the sake of it, why not make movies about the American Revolution and have Lucy Liu in the role of General Georgia Washington? It would certainly be a clever re-imagining, wouldn't it? And anyone who objected would be called out as racist and sexist!

While James Bond is a fictional character, he's pretty much written and set in our minds as a white guy.

I think Gillian Anderson said she wants the role.

Have people noticed that men don't want to interchange themselves with characters who were originally females? Men don't want to interject themselves in female spheres. They don't want to interject themselves into female sports the way women slowly try to get their foot in the door and see what men are men are going to put up with, and if they had, the men would be shamed for it. Suddenly the same 'women can do what men can do' crowd would shoot the men down and have all kinds of choice things about those men to say. With women, you give an inch, they take a mile eventually. And they keep pushing it.

If women want to project themselves as competing on the level of men, that shows you who they really admire- the men. But when men give into this stuff, their respect for men drops. The way women behave, either individually or collectively is one giant sh!t test they are pulling on men, it's how they test how much sh!t men put up with it, because if they do, women know that men are easily influenced by women. And they lose respect for that. Feminists and women generally do not respect men when they give into their demands.

Why is Bond so attractive to women and admired by men? Because he doesn't do these things, he isn't who he is based on women's approval. He does what he wants, he comes and goes when he wants, independent of what women think of him. You'll never hear women say, "Bond, he's so hot because he listens to women and puts up with their crap." But men generally put up with what women do because of being shamed by them if they don't, or afraid that they'll never get laid again- the very opposite of how Bond behaves, which is ironic. But women train men this way, and the irony in the process women are actually not all that happy by the monster they've created, and they keep pushing the goal posts out further and further and ever more dissatisfied getting their way all the time and men rolling over.

Women are never as cool as men. Granted the movies can create these characters and titillate fantasies and whatnot, and that's fine I think if women are cast in a role like as a foil for Bond- but to replace Bond is stupid. It doesn't work the same way. As Panzermeyer said, even the role doesn't make sense because setting aside the violence Bond is capable of, it doesn't look the same when a female character is having sex with lots of men who are working to derail her plans. Women don't really find that attractive, either, they are attracted to status, lower status male agents or male opponents is not what seduces women.

You don't have to argue and fight with women, just boycott it and ignore what they're doing. Then they change their behavior, when men don't pay attention to women, they've lost all their power over them and they stop pulling this stuff. It's just nearly impossible to get men to behave this way collectively, the power of the golden uterus is quite strong.

And if anyone has seen the feast or famine effect, they know what I'm talking about. When you get one or two women already hanging around, like a script, more women find you attractive too. They are actually quite attracted to men who get lots of women already, i.e., Bond or other high status characters, as long as they play it cool with an easy going, I don't care attitude. You may as well make Bond a guy in a chicken suit if you wreck that formula.

You get a lot more hours in front of an audience with tv shows than movies. TV or movie, it doesn't matter. Every couple of years you get ads for a Bond or Bourne flick, but for those others you have weekly ads for 9 months, plus the shows themselves. Might be fewer female characters, but you get beaten over the head by them a whole lot more. I'm about sick of constant ads for Blindspot.

Saw mention today that they've offered Daniel Craig 150 MILLION dollars to do 2 more movies.
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A quick google (so not really reliable) shows his current net worth at 95 mil.
He's pretty much beyond the point of money being a factor, but that's a lot of cash.

I don't know how accurate this link is either, but seems the highest paid (salary) to date is $35mil to Depp for a crappy Pirates movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_paid_film_actors
This more than doubles that. Then whatever he works in for the ongoing profit. Dayum.

That can't be right about Depp. I read somewhere that Downey Jr. Was paid over 40 million for each of the Avengers movies.

Ten years younger, maybw 15, I'd have liked to see her in an agressive female spy role. Today... maybe not. I think I'll skip the next movie, was so happy with Craig I don't want to see anyone ruin it.

But was it salary or back-end based on profit? Some actors have certainly made more that way, but I don't know about outright salary.

The difference of course is salary is part of a film's budget while profit sharing isn't measured that way.




The Jedi Master

That sounds familiar to me too. It was just a quickie google search. Still, 150 mil for 2 movies blows any other salary out of the water.
I understand their motivation, they expect to recoup it all and then plenty more. Still, that's a lot of money for doing ANYTHING that doesn't involve saving lives.

Not to sound heartless but saving lives doesn't really generate that much revenue compared to what a blockbuster film can make. Even the top neurosurgeons don't make anywhere near what an A list film actor makes.

Looking at the list Tom Cruise is listed for 3 movies for a total of $270 million, that's averaging $90 mil per!

Agreed. Actors, pro athletes etc are worth the money they make because of the number of paying customers they can draw to the theater / arena.


If people were willing to buy tickets to watch doctors (or teachers, fireman, cops etc.) work well they'll be worth that kind of money too.

I know, that's what I find sad about it.
Never mind how little cops, firemen, servicemen, EMT's, nurses etc. earn by comparison.