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#4254726 - 05/01/16 09:44 AM some mods can cause stuttering  
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Just a warning on this.
Yesterday I was tweaking Woff by disabling Vsync and try to set CFS3 on windowed mode. After doing the testings I swapped before closing my PC some promising mods into the game. This morning I started my first campaign trying out the DH5 and I noticed lots of stuttering.
What could be wrong, what was changed, ok the Windowed mode and disabled Vsync, or the fact That I as a 2seater pilot was flying a scout or the swapped mods. Luckely I couldremmember the wise words from Pol regarding mods and After pushing back those 4 mods also the stutter was gone.

If you are facing stutters try to focus on the mods and bring the game to origional state.
Use JSGME tool for the mods so you can quickly determine which mod is the root cause.

#4254729 - 05/01/16 09:55 AM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Many mods would add a lot of additional stuff to be handled - CPU- and GPU-wise.
And WOFF is ALREADY quite rich of scenery and other stuff.

So I think it is obvious, that one should balance the amount of mods with your performance.
Select the mods you want to use most, and add one after the other, to find out when the
stutter begins. Then cut back a little.


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#4254735 - 05/01/16 10:34 AM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Do not worry I know as exact on what to do. Strangely I did not see any overload, CPU core nr2 was still at 73% max and the temperature on the GPU was stabil from start on. Did not measure the GPUload btw, but I can hear at the revs of the GPU fan what temperature it is. reaching the max and the fans are on 100% noise. So I think if the GPU is not squeezed out by This mod the temperature would also be low.
But right now it has been solved, only doing the search on what mod is causing the problem, thanks to MSI afterburner it is just a matter of adjusting, what you want to show and just look at the OSD when the stutter shows up in the game.

Think I will start in monitoring the GPU load, Vram, HDload and HDtemp. Still have an old HD for the WOFF boot, maybe to much data from the HD has been used.






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#4254741 - 05/01/16 10:59 AM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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What 4 mods (not that there are that many) do you think are giving you difficulty?
Nothing currently, that I can think of off the top, should be giving you trouble.

#4254776 - 05/01/16 02:38 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch

Yesterday I was tweaking Woff by disabling Vsync and try to set CFS3 on windowed mode





Why CFS3 and not WOFF ??

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#4254785 - 05/01/16 03:38 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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If TrackIR5 could be used in the Woff menu then it would have sense, but right now I only want a tearless screen while flying.

#4254788 - 05/01/16 03:52 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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What is that means, 849 GPU ??
GPU VRAM ? I have sometimes stutterings, only when i'm getting close to some enemy aircrafts / buildings.
I think it's impossible to eliminate all the stutters, maybe with the WOFF 3 we have more luck, but i doubt it

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#4254790 - 05/01/16 04:03 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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With you OS and AV all in "proper shape and tuned up" you don't have to suffer from stutters.

#4254792 - 05/01/16 04:09 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
What 4 mods (not that there are that many) do you think are giving you difficulty?
Nothing currently, that I can think of off the top, should be giving you trouble.

1click no zoom mod, batlefront mod 1916, 1917 and 1918. But this also be to much mods or mods that are conflicting.

Do not know but this keeps bad boys from the street.

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#4254794 - 05/01/16 04:18 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
With you OS and AV all in "proper shape and tuned up" you don't have to suffer from stutters.


If you know the " magical solution " for how to get rid 100 % of the stutters, i'll send you 20 beers smile

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#4254795 - 05/01/16 04:20 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
What is that means, 849 GPU ??
GPU VRAM ? I have sometimes stutterings, only when i'm getting close to some enemy aircrafts / buildings.
I think it's impossible to eliminate all the stutters, maybe with the WOFF 3 we have more luck, but i doubt it

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wow think your rig is phantastic to run WOFF. If you have troubles then there must be something wrong for sure.

Divers, old nVidia drivers? did you do an driver update for all the components in the manager. I will get the details later on how to.

#4254800 - 05/01/16 04:46 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Believe me, i spent more than 48 hours, only to get rid of the stutters.
They are gone but not 100 %, and when they occure, it's very very annoying, especially in the middle of a dogfight, or something.


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#4254801 - 05/01/16 04:47 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
With you OS and AV all in "proper shape and tuned up" you don't have to suffer from stutters.


If you know the " magical solution " for how to get rid 100 % of the stutters, i'll send you 20 beers smile


If it was that easy I would be drinking them now.
There is no "magic bullet" you just have to play with your system and the settings turning off unneeded crap and programs plus a tweak here and there. I have always started with stutters with a new computer or operating system and after a few days of goofing they are gone
With 100's of different hardware and driver combinations on computers a "one size fits all" answer does not exist unfortunately.

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I tried everything possible. What else should i try ?!


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#4254805 - 05/01/16 04:58 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
What 4 mods (not that there are that many) do you think are giving you difficulty?
Nothing currently, that I can think of off the top, should be giving you trouble.

1click no zoom mod, batlefront mod 1916, 1917 and 1918. But this also be to much mods or mods that are conflicting.

Do not know but this keeps bad boys from the street.


One-click zoom?
What version of WOFF are you running?

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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
I tried everything possible. What else should i try ?!


WOFF is a funny program. I can't possibly guess what will work on your particular system.
Some things that have seemed to work for me in the past: Different AV's, making sure real-time protection is off and WOFF exempted, turning off unneeded services, use of game booster type programs, altering my page file, etc, etc.
And don't be afraid to experiment with your Workshop settings.
Obviously I can't be much help not being in front of your machine.

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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
Originally Posted By: dutch
Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
What 4 mods (not that there are that many) do you think are giving you difficulty?
Nothing currently, that I can think of off the top, should be giving you trouble.

1click no zoom mod, batlefront mod 1916, 1917 and 1918. But this also be to much mods or mods that are conflicting.

Do not know but this keeps bad boys from the street.


One-click zoom?
What version of WOFF are you running?


WoFF2 and all the Add-ons or packs, the only version I do not have is the WoFF3

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#4254817 - 05/01/16 05:49 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
Believe me, i spent more than 48 hours, only to get rid of the stutters.
They are gone but not 100 %, and when they occure, it's very very annoying, especially in the middle of a dogfight, or something.


Go to Controlpanel ---> Device manager You will see a list of all hardware in your rig.
Now on every hardware click to open the directory and right click go to update driver software, scan for driver updates, let this do automatic.
Scan all the way down, yep that will makes it 49 hours of searching.

btw I did notice you using a 4k Samsung TV right?? Think here could be the problem, adjust for game mode to start.






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#4254827 - 05/01/16 06:09 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Every driver is up to date, i tried that, already.
As i said, it's almost impossible to find out who's the culprit.
It could be the keyboard ( Logitech G510s ) the mouse ( Logitech G502 ) the Xbox wireless gamepad, some USB ports, some PCIex slots, even some GPU power cables ( hard to believe that one ) some drivers, allthough they are updated.
Maybe the latest BIOS version ?! Who knows ..
It could be even the TrackIR5, i don't know, allthough i tried the game with and without TrackIR5.


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#4254828 - 05/01/16 06:12 PM Re: some mods can cause stuttering [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
Originally Posted By: dutch
Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
What 4 mods (not that there are that many) do you think are giving you difficulty?
Nothing currently, that I can think of off the top, should be giving you trouble.

1click no zoom mod, batlefront mod 1916, 1917 and 1918. But this also be to much mods or mods that are conflicting.

Do not know but this keeps bad boys from the street.


One-click zoom?
What version of WOFF are you running?


WoFF2 and all the Add-ons or packs, the only version I do not have is the WoFF3


If your WOFF 2 is up to date you shouldn't need the "one-click zoom" anymore as it is now included in WOFF.
Been that way for at least a year IIRC.

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