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#4242797 - 03/24/16 01:18 AM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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More importantly, I was right. . Lol.


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#4242821 - 03/24/16 02:40 AM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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I think they just assume that enough people will simply not now anyone with a 20 year old game and/or bother considering the low price for them to make enough money.

#4242942 - 03/24/16 02:51 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Boomer]  
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Originally Posted By: Boomer
More importantly, I was right. . Lol.


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#4243070 - 03/24/16 09:30 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Boomer]  
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Originally Posted By: Boomer
More importantly, I was right. . Lol.


How the hell did you figure that?


Originally Posted By: Boomer
Here's whats going to happen, and you can mark my words.

GOG will insist on BMS putting code in such that only a GOG version of Falcon 4 will work with the BMS mod.


Well, that didn't happen, did it? BMS would work with GoG/Steam/CD version.

The only change is now instead of looking for just the .exe, it'll check for the entire game. It's also been said that it will work with Minimal/Typical/Full installation of the game, so really, it only checks certain files I guess.


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#4243074 - 03/24/16 09:44 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Originally Posted By: Boomer
More importantly, I was right. . Lol.


How the hell did you figure that?


Originally Posted By: Boomer
Here's whats going to happen, and you can mark my words.

GOG will insist on BMS putting code in such that only a GOG version of Falcon 4 will work with the BMS mod.


Well, that didn't happen, did it? BMS would work with GoG/Steam/CD version.

The only change is now instead of looking for just the .exe, it'll check for the entire game. It's also been said that it will work with Minimal/Typical/Full installation of the game, so really, it only checks certain files I guess.


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#4243159 - 03/25/16 06:05 AM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Why check for the entire sim? It's not like you can't find Falcon Gold on Kat.cr and such torrent sites. Seems like it would just be more of a hassle for no extra sales.


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#4243177 - 03/25/16 09:26 AM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Boomer]  
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Originally Posted By: Boomer
More importantly, I was right. . Lol.


No no no my friend. Most importantly.

#4243214 - 03/25/16 01:18 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Falcon collection (including F4) on sale @ gog.com all weekend

For 2,75$....
Go grab it


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#4243231 - 03/25/16 02:06 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Timothy]  
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Originally Posted By: Timothy
Why check for the entire sim? It's not like you can't find Falcon Gold on Kat.cr and such torrent sites. Seems like it would just be more of a hassle for no extra sales.


For what I understand it was popular to download the main exe file only. So I guess it comes from there... But yeah, no much difference.

But hey, in this case the only word that comes to mind is "whatever". We have BMS and it's got a "legal" stamp on it so... bananadance


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#4243246 - 03/25/16 02:48 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Like I stated before,

Its common place, when Comparing Say DCS and FSX to BMS, for a good chunk of BMS Users to state "BMS is Free", when in fact it's not, it requires Falcon 4.0.

However, there are several other smaller forums that were literally hosting the F4 EXE Claiming that Falcon4.0 was considered Abandonware.

Abandonware is a Product in which IP Owner/Publisher no longer supports or develops, and can also be still under copyright, though owner chooses not to pursue or monitor copyright infractions.

Tommo/Retroism being new Owners, likely want to put an end to that Assumption and subsequent acts of infringement.

There's Different groups of BMS Pilots:
-There's a Majority of Users who have Played Falcon 4.0 since it's launch, So technically BMS is Free, since we already owned Falcon4.0
-A chunk of Users that bought legit Falcon4.0 Copies on Ebay or other clearance source; to join in on BMS Falcon.
(IIRC there was a limited production run of Falcon4.0 in the 9.99 Value Games bin, CD and Quick Card, manual was on Disk, came in just a Jewel Case no box.)

-Then there's the "it's free group" who downloaded BMS but acquired the EXE they needed through "Free/non-Legit means", and tout that BMS is Free, where as other Study Sims are expensive, etc etc etc.


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#4243248 - 03/25/16 02:51 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Genbrien]  
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Originally Posted By: Genbrien
Falcon collection (including F4) on sale @ gog.com all weekend

For 2,75$....
Go grab it


$2.49 USD, I'll prolly grab a license tomorrow, I miss Falcon AT, and I dont have to time to pull the IBM AT out of the mothballs.

I also wanna see how well Falcon3.0 Runs, as I remember for YEARS having to constantly build and modify Bootdisks to get enough memory for F3.0 and any Sound or Joysticks/Devices.


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#4243347 - 03/25/16 10:23 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Oh my! Look how greedy the new owners are! Not only did they require an installation of the ENTIRE game, they went on and offered it for 75% off!! Greedy sods!!

/sarcasm off

Guess who's bought ANOTHER copy "just because"? wink


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#4246107 - 04/03/16 06:08 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Am I the only one worried about F4 being "steam rolled" and require Steam online activation to run?

This great piece of software is still here because it could cut loose and grow.

I am always asking myself what Steam games will survive in 20 years, not that I will be here to check.

#4246192 - 04/03/16 10:21 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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I'm not worried.

The Devs stated that you can use a version purchased online (Steam, GOG, or Retroism), or you can install with the original disc. Doesn't even require being patched.

Rest easy. All you need is to have F4 installed for the checks during start-up of the sim.


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#4246471 - 04/04/16 05:54 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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I haven't installed from the original disc in like forever.
Does it work on Win7 64-bit? I discovered that a few old games' installers simply hang on 64-bit o.s. (the InstallShield 5.x installers are prone to this, iirc).

My only worry about the new BMS is that it may take a while to verify the f4 install.
If I have to stare at a 'loading screen' for a minute everytime, that would really piss me off.


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#4246509 - 04/04/16 07:46 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Should do, the original Installs on Win 10 64 bit okay...have not run the app since install...........don't need to.



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#4246511 - 04/04/16 07:51 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Ah, then it's ok. Thanks man smile


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#4247145 - 04/06/16 04:21 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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The new splash screen is shown for ~2 seconds,
perhaps that is the time for the F4 check.

#4297083 - 09/17/16 07:45 PM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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Hi all. I would use a little help - apparently I have lost computer knowledge somehow down the line.

I downloaded the following files:
BMS 4.33 Setup.zip.001
BMS 4.33 Setup.zip.002
BMS 4.33 Setup.zip.003

Now, I seem to have no ability to unzip these. I used to use a program called winzip which would handle anything but it does not recognize these files. Windows does not recognize them as zipped files either.

How do I unzip these, and how to I combine them together into one file, or is that not needed?

Thanks!
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#4297165 - 09/18/16 04:49 AM Re: BMS 4.33 ....Any idea when direct download links are available ? [Re: Harry-the-Ruskie]  
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It could be a matter of file name and extensions. Try renaming 001 to zip, and 002 and 3 to z02 and z03. This assuming that the originals were created following the WinZip Zip format, which I'm not sure they are.


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