#4245971 - 04/03/16 06:55 AM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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I have this damned Problem with those Stutters since WOFF's release in 2013. My Suggestion is quite simple: It has something to do with the Graphic Settings in the Game.
I am playing with a GTX 970, 8 GB RAM and a i7-6700K with 4 GHZ. A pretty fast System, I think. Every Game on my System is running smooth as silk with High Settings, believe me. But I still have Problems with WOFF. Campaigns from April 1917 onwards are stuttering as Hell.
In OFF Phase 3 we've had more Options to tweak the Graphics. Do you remember the Graphics Config in Phase 3? You know, those Settings with the "Overrides" and "Texture Info" and so on. Tweaking with these Settings allowed the Players to adjust their Graphics, until OFF was running smooth and liquid. I am still playing OFF, and I have tweaked with those advanced Graphic Settings, and even with heavy Air Activity in 1918 I can play smooth as silk, better than it was ever before, I never see any Stutters, a very nice Gameplay.
But WOFF doesn't have these advanced Graphic Settings anymore. And THAT is the Problem IMHO. What runs good on the Dev's Systems, must NOT run good on our Computers, even if it is a similar System. I wish we had more Options to tweak the Graphics. But I have surrendered to it, surrendered to this whole Problem. THERE IS NO SOLUTION TO STOP STUTTERING.
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#4246001 - 04/03/16 10:54 AM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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That's very true. Even blockbuster titles need tweaking to get best eyecandy/performance. You can go into the configoverrides.xml file and adjust only some settings (e.g. the yes/no ones are mostly safe) as I've tried to make some memory value adjustments which ended up crashing WOFF. The Defaultoverrides is there for a backup.NOTE: Some of the workshop's settings are reflected inside this file.
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#4246021 - 04/03/16 01:18 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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I'm still searching for solutions. Maybe updating to Windows 10 would help, but i doubt it.
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#4246039 - 04/03/16 02:12 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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Bronnx
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Yes, i think you right Well, i'm dissapointed
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#4246063 - 04/03/16 03:32 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
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Hmmm. I suspected I would have an issue with the OS. Just switched to W10 a month ago and WOFF seems to be working fine with it.
So the whole point is to have the partition with its own OS on it? I still have my original W7 64-bit Pro install discs I guess I could use but, as I said WOFF works great with W10.
Would it be stupid (or possible) to have W10 on two partitions? The WOFF one all stripped down? Of course I am fairly "tweaked up" currently with junk turned off or removed as much as possible and still having a all purpose OS geared for gaming. I guess my thought is the future and the direction that drivers and bios are going in supporting W10. But then each partition would be using its own set of drivers? W7 may be easier to really "bare bones" it... I'll read around. Win10 is the best for new hardware, looking at steam W10-64 seems to be even more used then win7. So yes stay to 10. In my case Wofff is running great and my hardware is from the Win7 period i5-2500k and a hd7970 so there is no need to change a winning team. But a extra Win10 boot in your case is something to considder, fully optimized for Woff and no interferering by a automitic scan from a virusscanner or that nice free software downloaded by your wife but also introducing a unexpected conflict. As apoint of intrest my whole PC life I was forced to use low spec or obsolute PC systems, so I had to tweak/overclock/use sec..hand upgrade parts, on my systems to get things running at low cost. Remember Win98lite or by bare bone WinXP-ME so that it was regonized as WinXP profesional.
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#4246078 - 04/03/16 04:17 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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Hi Bronnx ! I had some stuttering with WOFF 2 too ,really annoying ,but after having played around with nvidia control settings and nvidia inspector settings AND workshop settings for some weeks, at least some tweaks definitively reduced stuttering on my rig (i7 4770, nvidia 970gtx,240gbssd,8GB DDR3 ,win 7)to a degree it doesn't bother me no longer. It seems to be a subtle interplay between quite a lot of parameters,so it took a lot of trial-and-error based tweaking. However, although most of the time results were somewhat indifferent, some changes actually made a difference (for me). You may give it a try... 1.NvidiaControlPanel: -enabling shadercache and v-sync, texture filtering High Quality, prefer max.performance, allow negative LOD-Bias. 2.Nvidia Inspector: (select cfs3 profile),maximum prerenderedframes= prerenderlimit_app_controlled,vsyncmode=force on, frame frate monitor control=ps_frame_rate_monitor_control_optimal_setting,shader cache=ps_shaderdiskcache_on, virtual reality prerendered frames=vrprerenderedlimit_default 3.Woff Workshop: In Graphic Details I left everything maxed out ('5'), Cloud Shadow Scale=9, Cl.Sh.Density=8 BUT reduced Terrain Shadow Detail from '3' to '2', this single step had by far the greatest influence on stuttering issue ! Best regards
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#4246080 - 04/03/16 04:20 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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Hi,
Could someone record a session of this stuttering? Just curious to see exactly what others are seeing?
Even on my older Notebook, Win8.1, loaded with all kinds of junk, that could do 20-40fps, if there was any stuttering, it was too minimal for me to notice with any consistency.
Thanks.
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#4246083 - 04/03/16 04:38 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
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Hmmm. I suspected I would have an issue with the OS. Just switched to W10 a month ago and WOFF seems to be working fine with it.
So the whole point is to have the partition with its own OS on it? I still have my original W7 64-bit Pro install discs I guess I could use but, as I said WOFF works great with W10.
Would it be stupid (or possible) to have W10 on two partitions? The WOFF one all stripped down? Of course I am fairly "tweaked up" currently with junk turned off or removed as much as possible and still having a all purpose OS geared for gaming. I guess my thought is the future and the direction that drivers and bios are going in supporting W10. But then each partition would be using its own set of drivers? W7 may be easier to really "bare bones" it... I'll read around. Win10 is the best for new hardware, looking at steam W10-64 seems to be even more used then win7. So yes stay to 10. In my case Wofff is running great and my hardware is from the Win7 period i5-2500k and a hd7970 so there is no need to change a winning team. But a extra Win10 boot in your case is something to considder, fully optimized for Woff and no interferering by a automitic scan from a virusscanner or that nice free software downloaded by your wife but also introducing a unexpected conflict. As apoint of intrest my whole PC life I was forced to use low spec or obsolute PC systems, so I had to tweak/overclock/use sec..hand upgrade parts, on my systems to get things running at low cost. Remember Win98lite or by bare bone WinXP-ME so that it was regonized as WinXP profesional. Thanks dutch!
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#4246105 - 04/03/16 05:47 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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Bronnx
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I just tested WOFF on Windows 10, i installed all the drivers, disabled some services, no antivirus, but same story. My last hope is to follow the Sowercrowd's advices. What do i have to select in nVidia CP / nVidia inspector ? CFS 3 or WOFF ?
Last edited by Bronnx; 04/03/16 05:48 PM.
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#4246125 - 04/03/16 07:12 PM
Re: Questions about WOFF
[Re: Bronnx]
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I'm getting better So, i did exactly as Sowercrowd described with nVidia CP and nVidia Inspector, with those WOFF graphics settings http://postimg.org/image/vnzk0lmwr/Now its much better, and now i will increase / decrease each option. I want to find out which option is the most fps killer Thank you
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