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#4243851 - 03/28/16 02:28 AM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: Dakpilot]  
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Originally Posted By: Dakpilot
You haven't been doing this type of stuff for long? you're kind of making it obvious where the original 'anonymous' post came from LOL cool

Cheers Dakpilot

And what has that got to do with the price of eggs? Seriously who cares where the original post came from? The important point is the content of the post not who posted it. There was no link to the hack just a video of its use. There was no motive other than to highlight what is going on. I don't see what the point in your post is dak other than to move the discussion in a different direction. That has me puzzled.


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#4243881 - 03/28/16 08:56 AM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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Oh I agree, the important point is the content

What it shows is the OP using a hack

It does not show as far as I saw, a lead computing gunsight

Mr Hex as a pseudonym for a well known player is so obvious that a four year old could figure it out

what it does not show is that person cheating, only the OP using a hack

Where I come from that is not evidence, only an assumption, right or wrong

An anonymous post singling out someone is not constructive for the community and should not be encouraged

This is not V for Vendetta fighting an evil government, it is a flight sim with grown ups (Mostly smile2 if I was properly grown up I probably would be doing the gardening)

If the only desire was to bring light to a hack, there are better ways to present it

Cheers Dakpilot

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#4243912 - 03/28/16 11:53 AM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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Cheers Dakpilot how are you going to sit there and condemn the assumption of a matter in the same thread that you assume, with no evidence as you pointed out, that I or anyone in this thread had anything to to with the source of the OP?

You haven't been doing this Internet thing for long have you?

#4243924 - 03/28/16 12:29 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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Sorry my humble apologies, it is not nice to be accused of something you did not do and I retract that,

You certainly did seem to have a healthy interest in the subject with your three rapid posts though..I must have misunderstood.

My point about the OP still stands by your own admission though

Cheers Dakpilot

#4243938 - 03/28/16 01:59 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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#4243987 - 03/28/16 04:05 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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Maybe I am old fashioned, but it is not the message nor the messenger

but how the message is delivered

Cheers Dakpilot

#4243999 - 03/28/16 04:37 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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No it's more like the more modern problem of how the message is received.

#4244124 - 03/28/16 10:42 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: bongodriver]  
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Originally Posted By: bongodriver
No it's more like the more modern problem of how the message is received.



#4244283 - 03/29/16 02:09 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: Dakpilot]  
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Originally Posted By: Dakpilot
Oh I agree, the important point is the content

What it shows is the OP using a hack


That is the most rudimentary deduction that could possibly be made about the "content". (And I am not just flippantly throwing that out there, I interviewed several heads of both broccoli AND cauliflower, and they all concurred.)

Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

It does not show as far as I saw, a lead computing gunsight


I skimmed through it, and it's pretty plain to see when he gets on the bandit's six... it's lit-truh-lee just the built-in pilot-aids from the lesser difficulties being used against players who mistakenly believe they are on an even playing field with NO pilot-aids of that nature.

Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

Mr Hex as a pseudonym for a well known player is so obvious that a four year old could figure it out


Unless, like me, you don't play the game very often anymore... I thought it was a joke about a hex editor or something.

Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

what it does not show is that person cheating, only the OP using a hack

Where I come from that is not evidence, only an assumption, right or wrong


I absolutely agree with you here, Cheers. But regardless as to the personal motivations driving the OP, I'm not a rocket surgeon or anything, but it certainly looks like this is the same b/s we have been over before on this same topic, and indeed not some "driver level hack"... I will admit that my interest in IL-2 has been greatly reduce of late, and what I hear comes from second hand friends for the most part, so I don't know if they are still persisting with that "driver level hack" garbage, but that's exactly what it is: garbage. This is a simple bit flip, and I am honestly tempted to see if it's as easy as I think it is. (Disclaimer: While it would seem that most of you are objective and reasonable adults, for those of you who are not I am certainly not interested in actively using or distributing such a thing. Thanks.)

Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

An anonymous post singling out someone is not constructive for the community and should not be encouraged


I think you're the only one who has actively even mentioned the possible correlation between the OP and a player... like I said, I am sure you are correct and it's obvious to some, I have never flown with (or seen forum posts by) anyone with a name close enough to "Mr. Hex" for me to draw an immediate conclusion. I think it is clear from this thread, at least, that regardless of the OP's personal motives and goals behind the post, it has generally been received as yet more troubling indication of the integrity of the flight sim (that I have personally paid hundreds of dollars for in copies for myself, my wife, and a couple of friends as well, when you add it all up).

Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

This is not V for Vendetta fighting an evil government, it is a flight sim with grown ups (Mostly smile2 if I was properly grown up I probably would be doing the gardening)


There are actually quite a few parallels between the government in V for Vendetta and the manner in which the powers that be are handling this abundantly apparent problem.

Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

If the only desire was to bring light to a hack, there are better ways to present it


I've found that the type of people with both the skill and inclination to bird-dog something like this are generally somewhat... off... it's easy to armchair quarterback this kind of thing. (and man, you must have a degree in structural engineering to maintain the shelf that is capable of supporting the number of armchair Heisman's you've amassed in even the relatively short period of time that I have been blessed with reading your posts) Having been, as I mentioned in a previous post, involved with several anti-hack crusades in the distant past, the one universal similarity behind the guys with the kind of mind it takes to reverse engineer observable behavior that is undeniably not operating within the rules governing others is that they are to one degree or other "A Beautiful Mind" level crazy.


Originally Posted By: Dakpilot

Cheers Dakpilot


Finally, some common ground we can agree on. Cheers, Cheers Dakpilot.


Anyway, it's nice to see the devs have this well in hand... I will return to my hibernation... someone let me know when the next evidence is released so we can have this exact same scenario repeat itself once more.


(Also, thanks again to SimHQ for hosting these forums!)

#4244342 - 03/29/16 04:18 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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I am surprised you have no idea who the OP is alluding to, if you ask dillon or one of your other TWB squadmates am sure they will be able to fill in the gap in your knowledge of that.

I fully agree that something needs to be done about using a hack, but disagree with anonymously naming someone, I find it hard that that you do not find that in common either

Cheers Dakpilot

#4244360 - 03/29/16 04:56 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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Thank Goodness...I thought someone was better than me. No wonder I get shot down sometimes...Thanks guys...I should have known... biggrin

#4244405 - 03/29/16 06:29 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: Dakpilot]  
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Originally Posted By: Dakpilot
I am surprised you have no idea who the OP is alluding to, if you ask dillon or one of your other TWB squadmates am sure they will be able to fill in the gap in your knowledge of that.

I fully agree that something needs to be done about using a hack, but disagree with anonymously naming someone, I find it hard that that you do not find that in common either

Cheers Dakpilot


I kind of ebb and flow from one genre to another, and it's been a long while since I have been deeply into flight sims particularly... I try to limit my exposure to other members of TWB as they are a surly and unwashed bunch with ill-favored looks and unseemly character (especially dillon).

But, as I am willing to make the sacrifice for the sake of the robust dialogue, I DID ask dillon (after which I washed my hands), and he did share with me the name of who I assume you are talking about... which starts to make more sense now that I connect the video linked with the server that it shows being connected to in the beginning. (I told you, I'm not a rocket surgeon)

I looked him up on http://il2stat.aviaskins.com:8008/en/ and he does indeed seem to have an almost unbelievable score in relation to the rest of those listed, surely he has to have a squad of wingmen that can simply refute such an implication... anyone with those kind of streaks, K/D, etc can't just be flying solo.

Either way, okay, say it IS in regard to this guy (Who I guess plays at hours when I do not), then I agree that an accusation at this point is in poor form without hard evidence. So we agree on that.

However, it's so hell and gone secondary to the fact that there really does seem to be a fairly glaring flaw in the Matrix here that I think your caterwauling jock-ride has done far more to draw attention to this ostensible accusation than every would have otherwise occurred.

Sidenote: Where DO you fly? Are you Dakpilot in game? Because I only see you on Tour 5 here:

http://il2stat.aviaskins.com:8008/en/pilot/4990/Dakpilot/?tour=5

#4244408 - 03/29/16 06:30 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4241224/Re:_Wings_of_Honesty#Post4241224

Link for original in Russian forum in Dev' answer.

BTW - Both guys that mention the matter there get some days of ban. ar15 RTFM attack

seehearspeak



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#4244687 - 03/30/16 03:02 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: MrHEX]  
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Just an OT-PSA:

over on the other forum the mentioning of bínding elevator trim-axis (only for for the movable stabilizer planes) to joystick made me curious.. and it works gamebreakingly bad: 109s turning soo hard the yaks stall. Apparently it is an old trick going back to the early classic Il2 days...




I hope it gets somehow fixed.. here is me in a macchi with the extra guns turning easy after the yak for the nonbelievers, but trying it yourself is probably key. You need to respawn once after options change for them to become applied, though.

#4246821 - 04/05/16 06:13 PM Re: Natural Enhancement for Virtual Pilots [Re: DrZebra]  
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Yep...it works. Tried it briefly last night (offline only). Certainly was eye opening.


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