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#4241821 - 03/21/16 11:10 AM Questions about WOFF *****  
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Hello everyone,
I'm new to this forum, I hope here is the right place for this thread.
So, I'd like to ask you some questions about this game, I don't have it yet.
I know there is no multiplayer, but i don't care about that. I do like single player, campaigns ...
All I want to know is, how the graphics looks like, compared to Rise of Flight.
Is this game ( graphic ) really old / outdated, compared to some other flight sims, like Cliffs of Dover, RoF, Battle of Stalingrad ?
My specs :

Intel I7 4790K / 16 GB DDR3 / Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500 GB / Gigabyte GA Z97X-UD5H / GTX 980Ti G1 / 4K Samsung UE48JS900 / TrackIR 5 / X55 Saitek
Is it worth to buy it ? I have to get Microsoft combat flight simulator 3, first ??
Thank you in advance

Last edited by Bronnx; 10/15/16 01:15 AM.

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#4241824 - 03/21/16 11:20 AM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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You do need CFS 3 first. WOFF is most definitely worth it. The single player experience is second to none! The amount of historical skins, the way the front line moves as offensives start and end, the units all on their historical airfields, it's pretty amazing immersion wise.

The graphics are by no means bad. They are not modern day AAA standard, but they are certainly not bad or immersion breaking. The clouds and lighting look very good indeed, as do the skins and 3d models.

If you are into WW I aviation, this game is a must have!


MACHINE GUN FIRE: CAMBRIN by ROBERT GRAVES (September 25 1915)

The torn line wavers, breaks, and falls. 'Get up, come on!' the captain calls 'Get up, the Welsh, and on we go!' (Christ, that my lads should fail me so!) A dying boy grinned up and said: 'The whole damned company, sir; it's dead.' 'Come on! Cowards!' bawled the captain, then Fell killed, among his writhing men.
#4241826 - 03/21/16 11:28 AM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Thanks, samba_liten
Do you play / played / RoF ?
By the way : after purchasing the game, how many aircrafts do I own ?

Last edited by Bronnx; 03/21/16 11:29 AM.

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#4241831 - 03/21/16 12:07 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Welcome - there are plenty of vids out there for you to view, there's even a videos thread on the forum, and some linked on the website and gallery pages.

Graphics have been improved lots in recent releases too.


Regards,

Polovski,
OBD Software, developers of immersive flight sims;
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#4241832 - 03/21/16 12:10 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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You can see plenty of WOFF V2 videos here:

www.youtube.com/hellshade68


Flying Wings Over Flanders Fields: Between Heaven & Hell II
videos at www.youtube.com/hellshade68

#4241833 - 03/21/16 12:12 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Ok Polovski, thank you, i will check some videos. On Youtube i found something, but i wanted to see more videos with the latest updates / patches / expansions /
I guess i order first CFS3, and than WOFF.
Which version do i have to buy, from here ?


http://www.overflandersfields.com/buynow.html
There are more options, like

WOFF v1 Download only
- and -
WOFF EXPANSION v2 Download only

CHRISTMAS SPECIAL price only $44.99*
usually 49.99*
original price when available separately $59.88


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#4241835 - 03/21/16 12:16 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Hellshade]  
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Originally Posted By: Hellshade
You can see plenty of WOFF V2 videos here:

www.youtube.com/hellshade68


From what i can see on this videos, all I have to say is WOW.
It looks great.
How is the flight physics ? How many aircrafts do i get after I purchase the game ?

Thanks a million


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#4241841 - 03/21/16 12:36 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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You can see the list of features in WOFF here:

http://www.wingsoverflandersfields.com/features.html

and the V2 Expansion feature list is here:

http://www.wingsoverflandersfields.com/featuresWOFFExpansion.html

I believe that's 64 aircraft between WOFF and WOFF V2. Zepps in V2 are not flyable, but everything else on the lists are.

I also think it's worth taking a look at the AI for WOFF, which is incredibly advanced and using decision making logic based upon a great number of factors in order to decide what to do next, instead of just randomly rolling "dice".

http://www.wingsoverflandersfields.com/features-AI.html

Besides WOFF and the V2 Expansion, I also highly recommend the Skinpack which adds thousands of historically accurate paint jobs to the sim.


Flying Wings Over Flanders Fields: Between Heaven & Hell II
videos at www.youtube.com/hellshade68

#4241857 - 03/21/16 01:52 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
Thanks, samba_liten
Do you play / played / RoF ?
By the way : after purchasing the game, how many aircrafts do I own ?


I own most of the planes for ROF, but like yourself, I am mostly a single player guy, so I was quite quickly bored with ROF. It's pretty to look at, but the things prioritized by the multiplayer community are not the same things I would have liked to have seen. Too bad...it's such a pretty game to look at!

In WOFF you don't have to buy the planes separately (except the ones that are added in the expansion packs, but each of those comes with 2-3 planes. In the base game there are already 40 or so planes for you to fly. In short, I've owned the game for a year or two now, and I still haven't had time to properly fly all of the planes!


MACHINE GUN FIRE: CAMBRIN by ROBERT GRAVES (September 25 1915)

The torn line wavers, breaks, and falls. 'Get up, come on!' the captain calls 'Get up, the Welsh, and on we go!' (Christ, that my lads should fail me so!) A dying boy grinned up and said: 'The whole damned company, sir; it's dead.' 'Come on! Cowards!' bawled the captain, then Fell killed, among his writhing men.
#4241881 - 03/21/16 03:32 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
Ok Polovski, thank you, i will check some videos. On Youtube i found something, but i wanted to see more videos with the latest updates / patches / expansions /
I guess i order first CFS3, and than WOFF.
Which version do i have to buy, from here ?


http://www.overflandersfields.com/buynow.html
There are more options, like

WOFF v1 Download only
- and -
WOFF EXPANSION v2 Download only


At the outset, buy the bundle, WOFF1 + WOFF2 then install those. Then install the latest v2.16 update for WOFF2.
(WOFF2 needs WOFF1 installed).

There are 3 addons and a Skin pack available too should you like what you see.

The FAQ goes over a lot of what you need, how to install etc.

http://www.overflandersfields.com/Downloads/FAQ%20WOFF.pdf

For visuals, also check out the screenshots thread in this forum. Look at the later pages for the latest graphics etc.

Website has features lists for WOFF1 and WOFF2 (WOFF Expansion)
http://overflandersfields.com/features.html
http://overflandersfields.com/featuresWOFFExpansion.html


Regards,

Polovski,
OBD Software, developers of immersive flight sims;
Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
http://www.overflandersfields.com
http://www.wingsoverthereich.com
#4241885 - 03/21/16 03:47 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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This is NOT an arcade game, the AI will come after you and will cause you to fly your "bird" to the limit
of it's envelope.

And I would not have it any other way!

Being a new guy, you buy the first round tonight!


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#4241886 - 03/21/16 03:48 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Welcome to the forums Bronxx, always glad to see another flier interested in the wonder that is "WINGS: Over Flanders Fields". As others have already noted here, make the investment, you won't be disappointed. And, as I am feeling particularly flush today, if you do get yourself all set up with WOFF 1 and 2, I'll treat you to the Skin Pack. smile2

However, you're on your own when it comes to the bar tab, and as CW3SF has so rightly pointed out, new lads buy the drinks! cheers

Cheers!

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#4241907 - 03/21/16 05:16 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Hi bronnx, and welcome to the WOFF forum salute

I own everything you can own for RoF (except the Russian expansion)...

and WOFF is better.

Just barely, but WOFF is better IMO smile

The "in-plane" feeling of flight is better in RoF. I think it is the best feeling of flight of any flight sim ever created.

But the WOFF scenery is every bit as beautiful and even more detailed and immersive than RoF. The weather in WOFF v2 is the best looking weather of any flight sim I've ever seen, including X-Plane and P3D. While PWCG for RoF is great, the in-game campaign in WOFF is better. The AI in WOFF is better than the RoF AI.

I love RoF. When combined with PWCG I think it is one of the best combat flight sims ever created. But I think WOFF is better. As good as RoF is, you'll have bigger adventures in WOFF.

Just my opinion of the must have start ups:

WOFF v2
Skin Expansion Pack

And sounds like Lou's got you covered on the skin pack thumbsup


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#4241947 - 03/21/16 07:20 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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I have supported RoF since july 09 and bought a metric shedton of aircraft and weapon packs etc. Sure the overall pretty factor goes to RoF and the feeling of flight in some A/C is quite impressive (as long as you like roundels) but the SP content is abysmal - especially the braindead AI. Seeing as RoF appears to be abandoned there is little hope of those issues ever being addressed. I don't even have it installed anymore.

With the current pricing of the Woff 1 and 2 bundle you would be mad not to grab it if you have an interest in WW1.

Plenty of A/C, great campaign, no two missions ever play out the same and you really do need to keep your head on a swivel in the hostile skies. And the skies are hostile, the AI in this game will make you work for your paypacket. Throw in a fantastic score by Matt Milne, and you really have the full package.

#4242583 - 03/23/16 01:55 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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I will order the game on 29 March, when I get home
Thank you very much for your advices, i will be back soon


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#4242818 - 03/24/16 02:23 AM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Bronnx

Welcome aboard. If you like WW1 simming/aviation, WOFF is where you need to be; period.
It is the top of Mt.Everest IMHO.

Oh, and I'll take mine two fingers neat, thanks. cheers

#4242826 - 03/24/16 03:01 AM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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And a Guinness for me, please. Welcome, Bronxx!

I've never flown ROF, but I've done quite a bit of FSX, CFS2 & CFS3-ETO, and real world airliners (in the back, I'm no pilot!).

WOFF to me is a work of art. It is not a game, it is a simulator, a labor of historical reverence and probably the only simulator that ever made me start when I looked down at the ground. And it's only gotten better since that happened! I've never seen such realistic skies.

Plus this is a wonderfully helpful and gentlemanly bunch; and on top of it, the developers hang out here! You can't beat it; I'm on here more than I fly!

Get yourself some good hardware if you don't have it already. Unlike more modern planes, the rudder plays a significant role, and a TrackIR or similar head tracking hardware is just about a must. My hands have enough to do without fiddling with a hat switch.


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#4242901 - 03/24/16 12:10 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Welcome, Bronnx.

You won't regret getting WOFF 1 & 2.

I have flown all the Il2 iterations since inception plus RB3D and RoF, all in SP mode, and WOFF is the best game of them all.

RoF & Il2 CoD/BoS are prettier and capture the feeling of flight better than WOFF IMHO, but WOFF will make your palms sweat more then other other flight sim I've played.

It is a visceral experience, and the weather and clouds in particular sometimes cause me to say "Wow!".

#4244262 - 03/29/16 12:50 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Can I uninstall CFS3,after installing WOFF?


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#4244429 - 03/29/16 07:05 PM Re: Questions about WOFF [Re: Bronnx]  
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Originally Posted By: Bronnx
Can I uninstall CFS3,after installing WOFF?


You don't need to actually install CFS3. You just need to have the discs there with you when you install WOFF. Early in the process you'll be instructed to insert one of the CFS3 discs. Some files will be copied from it and then the WOFF installation will proceed.

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