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#4241091 - 03/18/16 03:44 PM Original Zero involved in Taxi accident  
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http://allthingsaero.com/airshows/gallery-original-japanese-zero-loses-tail I bet the pilot feels really stupid but at least no one was injured.


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#4241093 - 03/18/16 03:49 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Originally Posted By: KRT_Bong
http://allthingsaero.com/airshows/gallery-original-japanese-zero-loses-tail I bet the pilot feels really stupid but at least no one was injured.


Isn't that the same thing that happened to the one the captured in Alaska, someone plowed into in taxiing.

#4241101 - 03/18/16 04:14 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Chalk up another kill for the mighty Corsair!

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#4241102 - 03/18/16 04:21 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted By: F4UDash4
Caulk up another kill for the mighty Corsair!

I think it'll take more than caulk to fix it, maybe some duck tape biggrin


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#4241106 - 03/18/16 04:31 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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#4241238 - 03/19/16 01:54 AM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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That is a real shame. They worked hard as hell to get that Zero into flyable condition, if this is the same one I remember them working on in the early 2000's.

#4241280 - 03/19/16 07:38 AM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Wow the Corsair has just gotta be the ultimate badass looking prop aircraft.


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#4241353 - 03/19/16 02:34 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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They really should stop flying these things, especially the rare ones, because when they are gone, they are gone. And for the benefit of what exactly? Just so you can see it flying gently into the clouds? That's not even what they were built for. If you want to fly them, then do some crazy dangerous maneuvers, that will showcase them for their true purpose. They just lost the beautiful Big Beautiful Doll P51. They will never come back.


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#4241361 - 03/19/16 03:05 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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#4241364 - 03/19/16 03:12 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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With the micro manufacturing skills and 3D scanning that is available, I don't see why they just don't start reproducing exact copies.


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#4241383 - 03/19/16 04:38 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Originally Posted By: TerribleTwo
They really should stop flying these things, especially the rare ones, because when they are gone, they are gone. And for the benefit of what exactly? Just so you can see it flying gently into the clouds? That's not even what they were built for. If you want to fly them, then do some crazy dangerous maneuvers, that will showcase them for their true purpose. They just lost the beautiful Big Beautiful Doll P51. They will never come back.

I used to feel that way but then you realize that most of the really rare authentic to the last bolt aircraft are already in a museum somewhere. Many of the ones that are flying now and considered as authentic examples are recovered from crash sites and basically rebuilt from the ground up out of whatever was salvageable. For example; P-51B 10NA Impatient Virgin who was recovered from a beet field in the UK [story here] http://historicflight.org/impatient1.html I know that there is a P-61 http://www.maam.org/p61/p61_rest.htm
another B-29 http://www.b-29doc.com/ and a few more rare birds out there in various stages of completion that I'm sure all of us would love to see in the air at least once and these are all aircraft that you would never expect to see ever resemble anything more than scrap. I'm pretty sure the zero was one of these as well, I think it's pretty amazing actually that this generation will see some of these old warriors again.
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#4241387 - 03/19/16 04:47 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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#4241473 - 03/19/16 08:59 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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#4241476 - 03/19/16 09:16 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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If you never fly them, why bother restoring them beyond just the visual aspects? There's a fair share of those around of most sorts of planes already, might as well fly the flying ones as long as possible.

#4241479 - 03/19/16 09:20 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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This was a problem during the War, and this is how they dealt with it with the P-47 (same issue as F4U) and the long nose.... you had a crewman ride on your wing while you taxied!



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#4241480 - 03/19/16 09:22 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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That crash at Oshkosh years ago between the taxiing Bearcat and the F4U taking off... the Corsair pilot never saw the Bearcat until the tail came up.... seconds before impact.
The pilot and the Corsair were based 5 blocks from my office at the Addison Airport Museum.


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#4243532 - 03/26/16 05:11 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: Timothy]  
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Originally Posted By: Timothy
With the micro manufacturing skills and 3D scanning that is available, I don't see why they just don't start reproducing exact copies.

With the dataplate you can rebuild an airframe to original standards. Any original builds would be required to meet current noise and safety standards that most could not meet. The cost of certification of the type would likely be cost prohibitive too.


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#4243655 - 03/27/16 02:03 AM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Ah, so that's why the whole "restoration" with
everything new except the nameplate. That clears
up a lot of mystery.

#4243727 - 03/27/16 12:53 PM Re: Original Zero involved in Taxi accident [Re: wheelsup_cavu]  
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Originally Posted By: wheelsup_cavu
Originally Posted By: Timothy
With the micro manufacturing skills and 3D scanning that is available, I don't see why they just don't start reproducing exact copies.

With the dataplate you can rebuild an airframe to original standards. Any original builds would be required to meet current noise and safety standards that most could not meet. The cost of certification of the type would likely be cost prohibitive too.


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There should be a "reproduction historical aircraft" exemption that lets them be built to the standards effective when the original was built, and which prohibits them from being used to carry passengers for money (no rides at air shows, for example.) It'd be similar to how many states allow antique vehicles to be registered and driven a limited number of miles every year without having to pass annual inspections.


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