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#4227393 - 02/10/16 12:30 PM Why aren't more playing online? *****  
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I've seen the Wings Of Liberty server maxed out on occasion, but the rest of the servers tend to be minimal. Is there something inherently wrong with BOS that keeps people from MP? The few times I've flown online have been enjoyable, so what's going on?


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#4227411 - 02/10/16 01:34 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Think yourself lucky,as a mouse player I'm even more restricted.I play almost exclusively on the DED normal server.I've never seen it full.

It's a real shame,I'm beginning to enjoy the game a lot,playing the IL-2 and PE-2 only.


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#4227417 - 02/10/16 01:43 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I think that more than games, the issue is players. People tends only join in a Server if is almost full.

Actually people don't like much play "flight games" unless 30m in QM to blow up targets with unlimited ammo, pointed by colorful labels. smile

Is time intensive and most time end in only in frustration - see the dozens of "gunners snipers", "FLAK laser", "Yak OP", "109 wobbly", "I can't taxi", "I can't see anything 2 KM away", "I can't navigate" *... etc.

MP in BoS is not too different from IL-2'2k1 or CloD respecting planes and scenery (maps) limitations.

WWII flight game MP = War Thunder. smile

* In BoS is extreme easy do "IFRR" flights.






#4227518 - 02/10/16 05:03 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Maybe if BOS had a decent multiplayer coop aspect like what the original IL-2 series had?

It's not rocket science.

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#4227681 - 02/10/16 09:37 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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No, it just wasn't a priority for the team before, during, or after release.



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#4227830 - 02/11/16 12:13 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
No, it just wasn't a priority for the team before, during, or after release.



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Well, there you go. Like I said, it's not rocket science. smile


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#4227853 - 02/11/16 01:01 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I'm hearing a lot of complaints about spending $100.00 dollars on a game. from a friend "not being able to play because my FPS is not getting above 40 fps which equates to about $2.50 dollars per frame, and is not worth the only 40 fps that I'm getting; so I have abandon the game for DCS which I get 120fps for free."

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#4227883 - 02/11/16 01:56 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I would have gladly paid $100 for BOS had it been more of a hardcore flight sim and had it had full MP coop support (ie you can host your own damn coop server and not have to use any stupid match-making service or dedicated server).


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#4229010 - 02/14/16 11:01 AM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I am going to wait for the sales . BOM.

#4229155 - 02/14/16 09:48 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Difficult learning curve for new players most will just play a few times and give up and more important is the the price of BOS $80 + and a 3 plane addon of BOM for $80 is priced way to high. Most people i know will not pay that much for a game which only has 1 populated server.

Its a pretty looking game but is basically rise of flight with new models which are priced way too high i dont see this game being around very long in the future. I been flying dcs which is a lot of fun but also way too pricey but to me it has more of a flight sim feel. I finally got team fusion mod working for CLOD which is alot of fun. Nothing will compare to the content we had in il2 just wish the mod community worked together and made 1 final version. I think this is why the mods killed the game, too many versions and no one plays that anymore on HL. Seems the only large multiplayer wwii flight game is war thunder which has thousands of players. Its fun also and been trying to get many to try out il2 bos but most hate it...


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#4229194 - 02/15/16 12:28 AM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Or maybe people just dont like the company any more. I know over 40 people now who own BoS but dont play it or would own it if it weren't for the #%&*$# that went down with it.

Once your brand goes from being "the best wwii sim out there" to "that company that screwed everyone over" people tend to not want to touch your product.

#4229237 - 02/15/16 04:15 AM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Here's my list of probably causes in no particular order:

Joining a server that is stacked 20-6 in favour of the axis and being base-humped out of the game by people who spend 6-8 hours a day online might be contributing.

The frustrating experience of encountering droves of magical Yaks that defy Newtonian physics.

Trying to taxi only to have ground loops occur at walking speed or getting bogged in the rough.

The recently fixed auto-start sequence reducing the mixture to 0% and stalling your engine. Credit where it's due, they patched this.

Can't see diddly outside 2km unless you tweak gamma in the config.

The very strong possibility that certain players are using radar and aim assist in expert servers.

Theartre of war that and planeset inspires indifference in many big Western markets

Best server is in Russia or wherever with 300+ms ping.

Having to unlock armaments in SP mode to have them online.


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#4229394 - 02/15/16 04:51 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: Ace_Pilto]  
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Originally Posted By: JimmyBlonde


Joining a server that is stacked 20-6 in favour of the axis and being base-humped out of the game by people who spend 6-8 hours a day online might be contributing.


This. also getting kicked from one team while setting up your aircraft because folk refuse to at least try to balance teams. Then getting the time penalty for changing teams because of those folk. It's frikin annoying and frustrating.


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#4229460 - 02/15/16 07:08 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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If the hyperlobby system was introduced I would never be offline... as it is, I rarely show my face.
What is it that is stopping 'this' IL2 from using that system, when the old game embraced it?

#4229486 - 02/15/16 07:59 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted By: Trooper117
If the hyperlobby system was introduced I would never be offline... as it is, I rarely show my face.
What is it that is stopping 'this' IL2 from using that system, when the old game embraced it?


It's not hyperlobby but it's a start, shows what servers are populated and who is in them when you click on the server.

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#4229512 - 02/15/16 09:11 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I think hyper lobby fell from grace way back when IL-2 was hacked...I never knew all of the details and that was awhile ago now old_simmer


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#4229608 - 02/16/16 04:06 AM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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The balancing part is a bit hard though. On squad nights we're bringing between 6-12 people, usually when we start teams are pretty even, but doesn't matter which side it is, it's going to skew the numbers to one side or another quickly.

#4229699 - 02/16/16 12:31 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: Ace_Pilto]  
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It's not hyperlobby but it's a start, shows what servers are populated and who is in them when you click on the server.

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DED servers are not listed in this page... "Bonfire of Vanities"?

I think that Hyperlobby will dont make difference for BoS, as don't did for CloD, times was changed.
At time (2001) was a happy coincidence that Hyperlobby exist when IL-2 DEMO came out.

People don't play this (new) games because don't have interest, or are happy with War Thunder. smile








#4229722 - 02/16/16 01:28 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I don't know what the story is with some servers not being listed. WoL is on it though and if you're flying BoS you're flying in WoL or you're on your own a lot of the time.

Yesterday was pretty impressive for a Monday though, around 200 players at one point so word is spreading.


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#4229875 - 02/16/16 06:49 PM Re: Why aren't more playing online? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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