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#4223703 - 01/31/16 04:53 PM DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33  
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I got a new monitor that runs at 2560x1440 resolution and cranked up both BMS 4.33 and DCS, and DCS updated to 1.5.2, and it's amazing how much improved those are. I am particularly impressed with DCS being able to improve not only the graphical quality, but also the performance (I know, I'm late to the party on that one).

I am still getting things set up in BMS after all the control changes, so I don't have much to show there yet. Here's a general flight shot:


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DCS Flaming Cliffs 3 A-10A:

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#4223707 - 01/31/16 05:04 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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#4223751 - 01/31/16 05:55 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Great shots Ken! To me, the 4.33 patch is a whole different and better Falcon 4.

And pick up the Mirage for DCS, you won't be disappointed

#4223778 - 01/31/16 06:31 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Does performance stay the same with the same hardware if you upgrade to a high resolution monitor? For example, with my specs below, if I get X performance in a sim with current setup but then upgrade to a high res monitor does the performance stay at X? I guess I'm asking because I thought to push higher resolutions it taxes the hardware more? Or is that just when trying to downsample or push a resolution that is not NATIVE to your monitor that it starts to affect performance?

Beautiful shots BTW.


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#4223782 - 01/31/16 06:39 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Interesting that "up there" the BMS shot doesn't really lose out in a big way to the DCS.

Now of course some of the more recent DCS shots especially down low are a different world. But not bad what a bunch of modders have going there...

#4223788 - 01/31/16 06:52 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Thanks for the comments everyone, I'm having fun with the new updates and monitor smile

Coot, as I understand it, performance at higher resolutions is more a function of the video card and not the CPU, so if your card can handle it, your other specs won't be a factor. When I was looking at monitors, I didn't get a 4K monitor because I read that my GTX 970 wouldn't handle it, but would handle 2560x1440, so that's what I went with. And with my eyesight, it's probably more than enough smile I don't see any performance hit on my rig at the higher resolution.

RS, I agree, the new BMS terrain is much improved, and while not quite up to DCS standards, I think it's closer than many might expect. The biggest difference I see is how many buildings there are. Here's a shot from DCS down low, and keep in mind this is 1.5, not 2.0: http://www.techflyer.net/ARC/DCS%202016-01-24%2018-27-21-55.png

And I don't have a good screenshot of BMS down low, but I made a quick video for a friend, and here that is:



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#4223806 - 01/31/16 07:41 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Nice vid. I'm not a big fan of the "painted on 3d-look houses" but the trees do improve it a lot.

#4224113 - 02/01/16 05:51 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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That would obviously be great, Troll, but I think it's hard to say one is clearly better than the other at this point, graphically anyway. The terrain is a little better in DCS, as well as the lighting, but I think the smoke and vapor look better in BMS, and I like its explosions and ground smoke much better.


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#4224147 - 02/01/16 07:01 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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#4224154 - 02/01/16 07:20 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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BMS sure can be pretty and I can't praise the BMS guys enough for all their amazing work on Falcon over the years.

With regards to grafics DCS with EDGE plays in a different league though.

Thankfully I can play and enjoy both sims.



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#4224232 - 02/01/16 09:05 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
BMS sure can be pretty and I can't praise the BMS guys enough for all their amazing work on Falcon over the years.

With regards to grafics DCS with EDGE plays in a different league though.

Thankfully I can play and enjoy both sims.



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#4224283 - 02/01/16 10:57 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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I haven't seen EDGE on my PC yet, so I was just comparing what I've been able to use directly.

EDGE sounds pretty cool, and as I mentioned, 1.5.2 is an amazing upgrade in graphics and performance, and how often does that happen? I just wish DCS would do something about the explosions. They all look the same, and the A-A missile strikes look a little cartoonish. The BMS explosions look more realistic to me, compared to DCS in its current form, anyway.


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#4224385 - 02/02/16 01:00 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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EDGE is 1.5. New explosions, effects and weather is coming soon(TM).

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#4225023 - 02/03/16 08:01 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted By: Arthonon
That would obviously be great, Troll, but I think it's hard to say one is clearly better than the other at this point, graphically anyway. The terrain is a little better in DCS, as well as the lighting, but I think the smoke and vapor look better in BMS, and I like its explosions and ground smoke much better.


Umm, you're kidding right? I love F4BMS for what it is, but it's not even close in the graphics department. Just like DCS isn't even close in the campaign department. BMS has a world that feels alive and a war to fight in, DCS doesn't plain and simple. That being said, a few 3d trees sprinkled around a land of flat objects and flat, painted on buildings doesn't deserve to be even mentioned in the same class as a DCS map, even if they're small and void of life.

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great stuff!!

#4226442 - 02/07/16 06:12 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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Here's another shot that, while not action packed, I thought showed a few nice touches, like the reflection off the canopy and other things.


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#4226466 - 02/07/16 07:02 PM Re: DCS 1.5 and BMS 4.33 [Re: Arthonon]  
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And one from BMS:

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