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#4220717 - 01/23/16 10:55 PM most feared2  
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Dear Sweet Suffering J...s.....been campaigning against the D7....and am creamed every time. No wonder the War dept made them priority 1 to be destroyed....they're awesome. Flying Spads...USA...if I engage I, and most of my squad, are toast. Pepper 1 and flee seems the best I can do....anybody have an engagement dicta that works??? Thx.....toast

#4220769 - 01/24/16 12:33 AM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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Ah Toast! Yes I know that one! Spread peanut butter on them, it ruins the aerodynamics and slows them down! :DM

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#4220770 - 01/24/16 12:34 AM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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Don't have too much WOFF time in the 13 vs the D7 (waiting for two-seaters) but historically the pilots "boomed and zoomed" when flying Spads and Se's against the D7.
They didn't call it that but the same thing in practice.
Dive (if possible), one pass, fire, keep going straight till clear, use you speed built up to climb up, turn around, and do it again.
Don't get into a turn right with them. If you get into trouble dive away.
Historically the D7 won't be able to keep up and you should also be faster in the level.

#4220940 - 01/24/16 03:13 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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I'm ready to try the peanut butter....nothing else seems to work.....do you recommend creamy or chunk style?

#4220944 - 01/24/16 03:30 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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Originally Posted By: gaw1
I'm ready to try the peanut butter....nothing else seems to work.....do you recommend creamy or chunk style?


Well chunky makes a rougher surface hence more air resistance! biggrin


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#4220966 - 01/24/16 05:00 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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You need patience, think speed, speed, and speed. Keep it, extend climb attack, fly past, keep fast, repeat.


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#4220967 - 01/24/16 05:03 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
Don't have too much WOFF time in the 13 vs the D7 (waiting for two-seaters) but historically the pilots "boomed and zoomed" when flying Spads and Se's against the D7.
They didn't call it that but the same thing in practice.
Dive (if possible), one pass, fire, keep going straight till clear, use you speed built up to climb up, turn around, and do it again.
Don't get into a turn right with them. If you get into trouble dive away.
Historically the D7 won't be able to keep up and you should also be faster in the level.


+1 Well said Duke.


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#4221015 - 01/24/16 08:08 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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Wait until you run into the D.VIIF with the BMW engine. It turns the Fokker into a killing machine that it was originally supposed to be, but couldn't quite manage while still equipped with the older underpowered Mercedes engine. Good times! biggrin


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#4221226 - 01/25/16 12:18 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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you're not wrong.....they're faster than my Spad. I can extend a bit but they catch up....turn, I have a nano-second to give him a squirt then he's past and each subsequent pass I have less time to extend and pretty soon I'm in the s..t again....it's fun flying the VIIF though....almost unfair!

#4221241 - 01/25/16 01:13 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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There was a reason why the Entente demanded Germany to get rid of all the Fokker D.VIIs after the war. If the D.VIIF had been available in large numbers, the Allied air forces would have been in serious trouble until they could bring their own better fighter types into service. The D.VIIF is very fast and climbs like crazy, while also being very agile. It's truly a deadly combination!


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#4221414 - 01/25/16 07:29 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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To be fair really you should throttle back to around 80% throttle below 2000m if I rem correctly, as we built in the 'high gas' boost but normally this only used at altitude (apparently damaging to the engine if used at a lower altitude too often).

However SPAD XIII top speed should be about 10+mph more than the DVIIF but of course takes some time to get there, and DVIIF likely has more acceleration. So try to not turn at all as you zip past wink


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#4221473 - 01/25/16 08:50 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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Pol: Are there any other planes that have these particular idiosyncrasies built into the game ???


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#4221479 - 01/25/16 09:02 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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most feared enemy.......... sudden engine fires!! lost a few pilots to them.


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#4221671 - 01/26/16 11:55 AM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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squirt and scoot then......thanks fellas

#4221697 - 01/26/16 01:19 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: gaw1]  
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As far as I know, the real life D.VIIF had a separate throttle for the high altitude boost. It was moved to the first position when reaching 2000 metres, and then moved one step forward for every additional 1000 metres of altitude.

It could also be used below 2000 metres to give the engine some tremendous extra boost, but like Pol mentioned, this could damage the engine.

I wonder if it would be possible to have such a separate throttle in WOFF too? It could be used in some other planes with similar engine configurations, like the Pfalz D.XII. smile


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#4222208 - 01/27/16 05:11 PM Re: most feared2 [Re: lederhosen]  
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In a Sopwith craft at least, I have found that when an engine fire suddenly happens, if you close the throttle and move the mixture control to idle cutoff that will many times put out the fire and give you a chance to find a place to land.


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