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#4219514 - 01/20/16 06:56 PM Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10  
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2498097,00.asp]



That means if you buy a PC with these upgraded chipsIntel's "Kaby Lake," Qualcomm's "8996," and AMD's "Bristol Ridge"they will only run Windows 10; you can't downgrade to Windows 7 or 8.1.

Discuss..


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#4219520 - 01/20/16 07:11 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/3024372/h...-after-all.html


http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4219509/Re:_Windows_10?_Yeah...no_than#Post4219509



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#4219530 - 01/20/16 07:22 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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LOL

Severe case of deja vu here on SimHQ. smile


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#4219550 - 01/20/16 08:09 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Sorry, the parts of that 21 pager I read was discussing dropping driver support and support for games. I totally missed the part about about cpu. Thanks Bib for the update. I had just received a email from PCMag with the article.

#4219587 - 01/20/16 09:27 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Well.... this is not good!

Damn Microsucks!

What if you built your own using those CPU, can you put a different OS on it if you are building your own?

#4219721 - 01/21/16 07:47 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Well, it wouldn't be a big deal if M$ gets their act together and fixes Win10.


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#4229649 - 02/16/16 06:53 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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So I want to buy a Gaming PC like the one for $699 they have on sale this week at Fry's.

http://www.frys.com/ads/page115#AdNavi

But it's Windows 10.

Do you think I can find someone to build me one without W10?

#4229656 - 02/16/16 08:08 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Is it a big deal if your next car will only burn X brand fuel or your next toaster will will only brown X brand bread?


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#4229675 - 02/16/16 10:51 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Any ideas like this need to be nipped in the bud by antitrust laws.

Seriously, the trend to artificially force customers into certain tracks - no matter Google, Apple, Microsoft - is getting worrying. Okay, they rowed back on this one but certainly with regrets.

I want back into an IT World with clearly defined standards - i.e. x86.

#4229678 - 02/16/16 11:22 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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not a big deal, if they attempt to force this on users, linux based solutions will take over the world for desktop computing.

linux/unix users will likely just hack the architecture anyway and force the cpu's to work with linux.

#4229701 - 02/16/16 12:34 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: VF9_Longbow]  
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Originally Posted By: VF9_Longbow
not a big deal, if they attempt to force this on users, linux based solutions will take over the world for desktop computing.

And what about PC gamers? Most games don't run on Linux.


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#4229708 - 02/16/16 12:51 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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#4233167 - 02/24/16 10:28 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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#4233178 - 02/24/16 11:18 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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If the next CPU's only support Win10, then they will follow the same road as Win10.

Good luck with that.......


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#4233193 - 02/25/16 12:17 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Intel/AMD is not so stupid they will limit the OS for their CPU's to Windows 10 only. It's just MS propaganda machine trying to tell people that Windows 10 is the only option - which of course is false!

Old CPU's will still work with Windows 10 (maybe not with all features) and new CPU's will still work with Windows 7/8 and Linux.

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#4233314 - 02/25/16 10:37 AM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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So no real protest against this eh?

The most "advanced" (when it come to datamining and fraud) the Microsoft OS becomes, the more work and time you
have to spend
to switch unwanted things off, if that is at all possible anymore. See Cortana, my donkey.
This is becoming an unproductive system, spending more time to adjust things that should be self-evident.

And you have to pay for things that have always been free before. Make no mistake, Windows 10 itself is not "free". You bought Win 7 or 8, and get a "free update"! Which then sells your data in the international company whorehouses.
I do not like this development!

And now processors that only support this? Go to hell.


If they ever make games and simulations for Linux, i will let this sorry parody of an OS rot.



#4233382 - 02/25/16 02:32 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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History says that won't happen, because it would've happened by now.

The most user friendly Linux is called OSX and it certainly hasn't taken the world by storm. Look how few games are on Mac as well as Windows.



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#4233386 - 02/25/16 02:38 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Most PC game developers now are walking financial tightropes and it would be a massive risk for them to pour money and resources into making their games compatible on Linux. It's too late now to change the paradigm. The majority of users are not going to dump Windows for Linux.


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#4233418 - 02/25/16 03:12 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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^ Yes, you are right, of course.

But maybe, when the pain gets too strong?

We have Win7 here, behind a domain. The update packets for Win 10 have already installed. Can't stop it. One of the clients' SSD is completely full, since it's a small 60 Gb one, and most work is done via network and file servers. MS has spared active production systems until now, but it seems the urge to evangelize has become too strong.

I have Win 10 pro at home, and it wants to write home every second, traffic can be watched on the router. I have turned it all off, but Cortana still runs, impossible to kill the PID. After killing it eight times, it stays off for some minutes.
Further you can only shut down ALL reports, if you have the Win 10 Enterprise version. Who has that, at home.

It gets frightening as soon as a microphone is attached. They clearly state that anything on your PC can and will be sent, or at least information about it. They will also shut down or de-install any program they think does not belong to you, or the PC. They will also send data to the police, if they see fit. That is written lieterally, in the new EULA.

This is self-evident with mobile phones, but on my PC? My photos, my personal texts. And companies, industrial secrets?
With a processor and/or other hardware tailored for Win 10, they can eavesdrop on you in realtime, 24 hours a day.
This kind of strategy opens the floodgates to anything.

And it is not even necessary to get personal texts from you, metadata are enough.
"Advanced-cloud-based-behavior-analytics method", soon coming to your home. Google it.


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#4233422 - 02/25/16 03:20 PM Re: Next-Gen CPUs Will Only Support Windows 10 [Re: Falstar]  
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Agree 100% with you Catfish. That is truly frightening and it's the kind of stuff that people like Beria and Goebbels would have absolutely loved to utilize had they been alive today.

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