So they raised over $2.5 million from starter donations to make this Oculus thing and now they want to price gauge the public that gave them their start up money.

I'd be more or less on board, but the USB port requirements are the sticking point for me. Seriously.

The price is what it is, I understand bleeding edge electronics are expensive. My question is "why was the messaging about price so poor? $599 is not in the ballpark of $350"

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I handled the messaging poorly. Earlier last year, we started officially messaging that the Rift+Recommended spec PC would cost roughly $1500. That was around the time we committed to the path of prioritizing quality over cost, trying to make the best VR headset possible with current technology. Many outlets picked the story up as �Rift will cost $1500!�, which was honestly a good thing - the vast majority of consumers (and even gamers!) don�t have a PC anywhere close to the rec. spec, and many people were confused enough to think the Rift was a standalone device. For that vast majority of people, $1500 is the all-in cost of owning Rift. The biggest portion of their cost is the PC, not the Rift itself.

For gamers that already have high end GPUs, the equation is obviously different. In a September interview, during the Oculus Connect developer conference, I made the infamous �roughly in that $350 ballpark, but it will cost more than that� quote. As an explanation, not an excuse: during that time, many outlets were repeating the �Rift is $1500!� line, and I was frustrated by how many people thought that was the price of the headset itself. My answer was ill-prepared, and mentally, I was contrasting $349 with $1500, not our internal estimate that hovered close to $599 - that is why I said it was in roughly the same ballpark. Later on, I tried to get across that the Rift would cost more than many expected, in the past two weeks particularly. There are a lot of reasons we did not do a better job of prepping people who already have high end GPUs, legal, financial, competitive, and otherwise, but to be perfectly honest, our biggest failing was assuming we had been clear enough about setting expectations. Another problem is that people looked at the much less advanced technology in DK2 for $350 and assumed the consumer Rift would cost a similar amount, an assumption that myself (and Oculus) did not do a good job of fixing. I apologize.

To be perfectly clear, we don�t make money on the Rift. The Xbox controller costs us almost nothing to bundle, and people can easily resell it for profit. A lot of people wish we would sell a bundle without �useless extras� like high-end audio, a carrying case, the bundled games, etc, but those just don�t significantly impact the cost. The core technology in the Rift is the main driver - two built-for-VR OLED displays with very high refresh rate and pixel density, a very precise tracking system, mechanical adjustment systems that must be lightweight, durable, and precise, and cutting-edge optics that are more complex to manufacture than many high end DSLR lenses. It is expensive, but for the $599 you spend, you get a lot more than spending $599 on pretty much any other consumer electronics devices - phones that cost $599 cost a fraction of that to make, same with mid-range TVs that cost $599. There are a lot of mainstream devices in that price-range, so as you have said, our failing was in communication, not just price.

In what 'ballpark' can we expect Touch's price to be?
No more ballparks for now. I have learned my lesson.

How many games can we expect to have available to us by years end?
At least 100 - Over 20 Oculus Studios titles, many more 3rd party titles.

John Carmack tweeted that he expects gaming to occupy less than 50% of the time we spend in the RIFT.. what kind of experiences is he eluding to. Oculus Medium? Toy box? How much is there to do in Toy Box?
Somewhat surprisingly, the majority of time spent right in Gear VR is video and experiences, not games. Over time, VR span beyond games, much like the evolution of computer and mobile platforms before it. Right now, gaming is going to be the primary driver of PC VR, but the content base will expand over time.

What kind of prices can we expect Movies/Experiences to have in the Oculus Store? Most experiences in the GearVR store have been free.
There will be the range of prices from free to higher priced AAA games. The pricing will be similar to what you see in console PC games.

Can we have some detailed information about the screens/displays? FOV/Resolution/pixelfill/pentile/etc... these are custom displays, we want to know everything
We will be sharing more soon. We have done a lot of work optimizing and building these displays, we definitely want people to see how awesome they are.
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Ordered mine, among the first few thousands so mine should be shipping in March. Still though, �743, quite a bit of money. However I am super excited about VR.

I just checked, orders placed now (noon eastern time, 01/07) ship in JUNE.

The price is a bit steeper than I expected (I always thought it would be around $500) so I am not spending that kind of money without reviews of both OR and Vive production models, reviews that are relevant to flight simming. If the camera on the Vive will allow it to combine real word and virtual world and I can map my real world flight sim cockpit into a flight sim that will be worth at least another $100 above the OR price.

Argh, I wasn't aware that the Oculus would have a better screen?

man....

Argh, I wasn't aware that the Oculus would have a better screen?

man....

The first joysticks weren't that great. The first mice left a lot to be desired, as did the first gamepads.

I'm sure the 3rd or 4th gen will entice me finally to get one. But not first gen, I'm just not an early adopter kind of person anymore.



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And in every side by side review between the latest version of each, most I have read actually preferred Vive.

Interesting, got any links for these reviews? I have yet to read a single person preferring the the Vive display over the CV1 display. Would love to hear their view on it.

Now that is based on pre- CES reviews over the past 3-4 months. The only post CES review I've read is below, and it leans to Vive as well.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/virtual-reality/htc-vive-pre-hands-on/

I would buy this if I had followed it more closely. Unfortunately, I've never tried VR, I wear glasses, and I get sick easily when playing FPS. Not to mention I need to see my touchscreen setup to manipulate cockpit controls when flying BMS or DCS. Still very tempted to buy even if just for Elite or Star Citizen.

Paying that much for a "demo" seems a lot. I wonder what the resell value would be?