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#4212310 - 01/02/16 01:42 AM BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors  
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Hi guys, does anyone have a simple procedure to set up BMS With three 1920x1080 monitors? With DCS you can select 5760x1080 resolution and it will span the view across three monitors. No option for that resolution in BMS. Using NVIDIA control panel and selecting the surround Physx tick box works, but it has a bug which prevents you from deselecting the tick box. This results in windows being distorted when exiting the sim since the surround mode is locked. I have the NVIDIA Gtx 980 to by MSi. I'd like to run it full screen. Any help would be appreciated.

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#4212388 - 01/02/16 07:53 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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There should be no problem running BMS in whatever your Surround resolution is. However, this value may not be at the BOTTOM of the resolution select drop-down menu in the BMS UI screen, I had a few occasions where my Surround resolution is first on the list, meaning, at the TOP.



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#4212402 - 01/02/16 10:08 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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I run triplescreen ok but not at your resolution. I run 3840X1024.

If the above from Ice doesn't fix your issues, there is a thread on the BMS forums about modifying the User/Config/dx9display.dsp file with a hex editor to setup custom resolutions. I don't know if this will work to fix your problem, just a suggestion.

http://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthread.php?7429-Custom-screen-resolution&highlight=hex

from the post by tailblues:

In falcon4 BMS, you cannot set the game (3d) window to your own custom resolution, even in the windowed mode. Only some of the well known resolutions upto your biggest screens are appearing in the UI, and there is no editable text configuration for screen resolution.

However, with a hex editor, you can still set it with your own custom resolution.

The file "User/Config/dx9display.dsp" holds screen resolution and other info. Sadly, it is written in binary values. So you need a Hex-Editor to set it to a special resolution.

2 bytes in address 3C (3C and 3D) holds X-resolution in least order first. Hex "B004" is thus, 400b -> 1200. Hex "8007" is thus, 0780 -> 1920, etc.
2 bytes in address 40 (40 and 41) holds Y-resolution.



There is a free onine HEX editor https://hexed.it/?hl=en.

This is what I think you have to modify your file to for your resolution (the two orange shaded boxes, one showing 8016 and the other 3804:


#4212545 - 01/02/16 08:04 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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That used to be the case... I remember having to hex-edit in the early days of 4.32. Should NOT be the case now, but it's there if push comes to shove.


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#4212689 - 01/03/16 08:09 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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For some reason, in BMS 5760x1080 doesn't appear in the list at all. I was hoping that there was a simple configuration or selection to this resolution as we see with DCS A-10C. I don't have any hex tools on my new rig. I wonder how DCS does this? Also, what version of NVIDIA drivers are you running?

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#4212737 - 01/03/16 03:11 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Running latest nVidia drivers, released 21st Dec 2015.


Here's BMS with my Surround turned off. As you can see, the 1920x1080 res shows up at the TOP.



Here's BMS with Surround turned on. As you can see, BMS detects both the 5760x1080 default res and the 5896x1080 bezel-corrected res and both are shown at the BOTTOM.



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#4212813 - 01/03/16 07:45 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Ah ok, so we have to have the Span across all monitors tick box checked via NVIDIA Control Panel(NCP) - Surround PhysX? On my Windows 10 setup that tick box works but the surround mode becomes locked and won't allow me to disable via NCP . As such, Windows 10 is stretched and becomes difficult to use (all apps stretched out of proportion). I then have to do a clean reinstall of NCP. I was on with NVIDIA last night and they want me to try the Dec 1st driver to see if that corrects it. Can you post some screens of NCP UI with Surround off and on?

#4212899 - 01/04/16 02:25 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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I'm not exactly sure I understood what you just posted there.

Here's what I have for Surround:







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#4213249 - 01/05/16 01:26 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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That's what I was referring to. Yes, yours is configured differently. I have my three monitors set each at 1920x1080. I noticed that you have your three linked as one big monitor (5896x1080). I'm going to try that. Also, I see you have the monitors connected by Dvi and also display port. Mine are HDMI and 2 on display port to HDMi. Are you using active display port adapters or passive?

#4213290 - 01/05/16 04:28 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Uh... yes. You need your monitors on Surround so that BMS will detect it as one big monitor and display the appropriate resolution. I'm surprised you actually only had 3x 1920x1080 and expected BMS to "combine" it for you. smile

So "link" your monitors together. In AMD, this is called "Eyefinity," in nVidia, this is called "Surround." That will show your computer and any games your run that you have "one big monitor" and the games, if they can, will run on that resolution.

The type of connectors should not be an issue. Because I am using DisplayPort, I only had to buy a DP-to-DVI cable (my monitors are DVI). When I was using an AMD card with mini-DP, I had to use an ACTIVE mini-DP-to-DVI adapter, then use a DVI-to-DVI cable.

I've not touched DCS in ages but IIRC, you can mod it so that the left and right monitors actually showed you a left/right view whereas most games usually just show you a front view and stretched it across three screens. So I guess DCS is different in that way.... IIRC, FSX can do this as well.


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#4213427 - 01/05/16 04:33 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Some games will handle separate monitors for you. DCS will even render a different picture (direction) on each which will be able to heat your house using your video card.

Simple/older games like Falcon don't support more than one display which is why the combined virtual display was invented to fool software to thinking three little monitors were one big one. If games supported several displays really well there'd be no need for the AMD/nV solution.

#4213441 - 01/05/16 05:00 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Know of any games that do this except for DCS and FSX?


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#4213479 - 01/05/16 06:15 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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I think you're right about DCS. The reason why I thought that BMS would see that is because DCS sees it and automatically makes the 5760x1080 resolution available in the resolution menu. I don't have to have the driver set to surround mode with DCS. In BMS, when I have surround mode enabled, for some reason the max resolution available is something like 4800x900. Also, the NVIDIA driver keeps locking in surround mound. When I try to disable it NVIDIA control panel crashes forcing a reinstall of the driver. This is 100% repeatable. So, it's enable Surround, play Falcon reinstall the driver.
I have a work order open with NVIDIA about this.

I now have to figure out get my HOTAS Cougar programmed in Windows 10. Are you using Foxy or that Thrustmaster target program? I haven't tried to install Foxy yet.

#4213512 - 01/05/16 07:56 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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I think it was unfair to expect the same from BMS. As others have pointed out, there used to be a hex-editing option that needed to be done for multi-screen displays. I used to do this alongside SoftTH to get my old setup to work! biggrin

I'm not sure what your problems are regarding the driver though. With a GTX 980, this shouldn't be happening for such a high-end card. Have you tried older drivers?

As for your question regarding the Cougar, my suggestion would be to go to the official BMS forums, find out what the popular Cougar profile is, and use whatever profile software they use for it. Might be TARGET, might be Foxy. I personally use TARGET but I'm using Morphine's profile on the TM Warthog.


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#4213647 - 01/06/16 01:35 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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I am totally new to this triple monitoring thing so pardon me in my infancy. Nothing beats Falcon's dynamic campaign with BMS additions.
Yup, i tried two older driver sets and they all are crashing at that say point with Windows 10.

Oh, I just didn't know if Foxy would run on Windows 10. Thrustmaster doesn't mention it at all. It just directed me to download Target.
So anxious to fly on my new rig I've been doing just enough to get airborne.. I'm going to need to set some time to read through all the threads and docs that are out there on both sims. But I'll definitely check over at the BMS forum. I'll need a hybrid profile for the A-10C using the Cougar, as well as a BMS profile.

I'm definitely looking to get myself a Warthog throttle in the near future.

BTW, Thanks for all your help. You wouldn't happen to be Ice from the old Janes F-18 days would you?

#4213712 - 01/06/16 09:17 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Originally Posted By: TheSilkMan
I am totally new to this triple monitoring thing so pardon me in my infancy. Nothing beats Falcon's dynamic campaign with BMS additions.

I have no idea why I assumed you were used to multi-monitor displays, I apologize for making that assumption. I do hope you're enjoying BMS in all it's wide-screen goodness!

I do agree that it might be Windows 10 at fault at this time regarding GPU drivers frown That's one reason I'm holding off Win10. No chance for you to revert to Win8.1 or Win7? As for Foxy, well, I've read some posts about people having problem with it and Win10 as well but as I don't use it, I've not really paid much attention. As TARGET is TM's new software, it is obvious that it is what they'd support. TBH, the only reason to use Foxy is if the profile you are using is under Foxy and there are no other profiles under TARGET. I'm at the other end of the board here, using a hybrid profile on the TM WH to use it under BMS smile

I did use to play Jane's F/A-18 but this was ages and ages ago. My current profile here started in 2005, I can't remember what handle I used before that.... so a good guess is "no."


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#4213912 - 01/06/16 08:11 PM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Know of any games that do this except for DCS and FSX?


Supreme Commander and World in Conflict are RTSs that can put the tactical map on a second monitor. I think Rise of Flight does the triple-angle thing. Most games going forward aren't going to explicitly support more than one display because of Surround/Eyefinity making it so simple to create a virtual display out of many monitors.

It's a shame OP is having trouble with 5760x1080 with Falcon because once I created an Eyefinity group and ran Falcon once it was available in the drop down menu for resolutions like any other. He says he has some weird "under resolution" resolution. Are the 3 monitors identical resolution? Neither of the 1st party solutions handles mixed resolutions well at all.

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Ooo! That would be cool! I wonder if Starcraft II can do it?

TheSilkMan did say on the first post that he had 3x 1920x1080 monitors so that shouldn't be the problem.


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#4214000 - 01/07/16 01:46 AM Re: BMS 4.33 with 3 Monitors [Re: TheSilkMan]  
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Yes my monitors are identical. In actuality they are 4K tv/monitors. I'm running for gaming in the lower 1920 resolution because I'd need at least another 1or 2 980tis to push 4k. It's a brand new liquid/Air cooled rig and I left some room for upgrading. I have dreamed of doing this for over a decade and finally was able to. It came with Windows 10 so going back to 7 or 8 is not possible. I've played COH 1 in surround mode with graphics maxed out. It doesn't just stretch the display but actually widens the field of view. The 980ti handles it superbly well. That one you can add to the list of games requiring surround mode. With my Intel chip I got a free software bundle, War of Warships, just Cause 3, Cs:GO, and the latest Rainbow Six. I just downloaded them but haven't had a chance to test them out.

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Haha! Yeah, 4K is only good for single-screen gaming or maybe one of those wide-screen monitors. For tri-monitor gaming, I suspect SLI/Crossfire is needed and at that point, it becomes "how much money can you throw at it."


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