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#4200970 - 11/30/15 07:43 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: marko1231123]  
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A bit off topic but I'm curious to know. Which year did all of you start PC gaming? I'm talking about gaming on a PC-IBM compatible system and not something like an Amiga or Atari 800. smile


Me: 1989

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#4200976 - 11/30/15 07:52 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
A bit off topic but I'm curious to know. Which year did all of you start PC gaming? I'm talking about gaming on a PC-IBM compatible system and not something like an Amiga or Atari 800. smile


Me: 1989

1987/1988. Was one of those old monochrome "sims" of that era. It was a Mighty 8th type of flying simulation where I almost always got the navigator of my B-17 killed by "virtual" flak since it was not modeled. You just got a message that he had been killed. Made getting home quite a challenge but it could be done with a lot of luck. Whole game came on a 5-1/4 floppy disk. biggrin

Always kicked myself for not copying it to a 3.5 before the disk went bad.


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#4200987 - 11/30/15 08:08 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
A bit off topic but I'm curious to know. Which year did all of you start PC gaming? I'm talking about gaming on a PC-IBM compatible system and not something like an Amiga or Atari 800. smile


Me: 1989


I first started to play on a PC circa 1991-1992 using a Schneider Euro PC that was owned by a cousin of mine (at that time I still didn't own a PC) and the first game that I played (on PC) was Price of Persia.

By the way the Schneider Euro PC was a very archaic computer which came with a monochromatic monitor and Graphic Card (Hercules) and it had a Floppy disk drive but it didn't have any Hard Disk Drive (first you needed to boot the Operating system from a floppy disk and after the OS was booted then you could remove the floppy disk that contained the OS in order to insert the floppy disk that contained the game or program that you wished to run).

Here's an image from a Schneider Euro PC:
http://www.ntrautanen.fi/computers/other/images/schneider_europc.jpg


It was only in 1993 when I owned my first PC which as an IBM PS2 which already had a Hard Disk Drive (40MB if I recall correctly) and a VGA monitor and graphic card. The first game that I played on this PC (my first one) was the helicopter sim LHX.

#4200994 - 11/30/15 08:19 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: ricnunes]  
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
(my first one) was the helicopter sim LHX.


I remember LHX quite well! You could fly the Kiowa and the Huey and I also think the Cobra?

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#4200995 - 11/30/15 08:22 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: marko1231123]  
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It would be 1991 for me.First game was Falcon 3.0.How things have advanced since then.Back in those dark days we had *lol* dynamic campaigns of all things. hahaha


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#4201000 - 11/30/15 08:29 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: marko1231123]  
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#4201004 - 11/30/15 08:37 PM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: ricnunes
(my first one) was the helicopter sim LHX.


I remember LHX quite well! You could fly the Kiowa and the Huey and I also think the Cobra?


Comanche, Osprey, Apache and Blackhawk if I remember correctly.

Was also my first PC game along with Falcon AT. Those TOW missiles are fun to launch at those poison equipped Kips after a WTH? crash after flying through green smoke.

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Originally Posted By: DaBBQ
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: ricnunes
(my first one) was the helicopter sim LHX.


I remember LHX quite well! You could fly the Kiowa and the Huey and I also think the Cobra?


Comanche, Osprey, Apache and Blackhawk if I remember correctly.

Was also my first PC game along with Falcon AT. Those TOW missiles are fun to launch at those poison equipped Kips after a WTH? crash after flying through green smoke.


Yes, DaBBQ is right about the list of flyables in LHX!
But just one note about the flyables, you didn't actually fly the Comanche in LHX. What you could fly was a helicopter named LHX (which besides being the name of the game it was also the name of the competition where the Comanche ended up wining) and that LHX helicopter was actually the concept from Bell and McDonnell Douglas (if I'm not mistaken) that competed (and lost) against the Boeing/Sikorsky concept (where the Comanche was the result).

Controlling those TOWs could be fun and frustrating at the same time, LoL biggrin

I believe that you're confusing LHX with Gunship 2000, PanzerMeyer.
In Gunship 2000 you could fly the Cobra, Kiowa, Apache, MD500, Blackhawk and Comanche.

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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
A bit off topic but I'm curious to know. Which year did all of you start PC gaming? I'm talking about gaming on a PC-IBM compatible system and not something like an Amiga or Atari 800. smile


Me: 1989


1993, first game I bought was Betrayal at Krondor.

I played the hell out of that game but was mostly a console guy until I bought my first dedicated gaming PC in 1999.

The late '90s to early 2000s were my peak gaming years, I haven't really been a hardcore simmer since 2003 nor have I even spent a lot of time on games since then that didn't have Elder Scrolls, Fallout or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. in the title.

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I think LB is speaking from experience...... biggrin


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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
A bit off topic but I'm curious to know. Which year did all of you start PC gaming? I'm talking about gaming on a PC-IBM compatible system and not something like an Amiga or Atari 800. smile


Me: 1989


1989. Tandy 286 12mhz, no hard drive. First sims, the very reason for buying the PC, were "Jetfighter" and "Chuck Yeagers Air Combat". I thought I had died and gone to heaven.


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#4201142 - 12/01/15 01:40 AM Re: As you get older are you losing your enthusiasm for gaming [Re: marko1231123]  
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Like many of you mid-lifers, there's life to be lived (although no rock climbing for me). My games are old (mostly DOS), easy and quickly played, games that don't take a lot of my time.

What I don't do anymore is stay up late playing games or working on projects. Every night I go to bed with my wife, with few exceptions (even if sometimes I'm reading the board). And this isn't about sex, it's about just being there, going to sleep together and waking up together, not taking time for granted anymore.

Every day could be your last for any number of reasons, you just don't think about it when you're young. As morbid as I sound, I think I'm starting to lose my mid-life anxieties. The dreams are fading and I feel more...relaxed.

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I'm 42, and yeah, the thrill is starting to wane. It started with the fact that I simply do not have the time to devote to learning DCS, which is why I haven't bought anything new for it and probably won't. I simply do not have the time. Then it started to affect my enjoyment of Strike Fighters 2. I kept asking myself, "why do I want to play a game that I have to spend even more time to improve?"

Now, when I do get some game time in, it's games that are established, and more importantly, games that are finished. I don't want to have to spend any more time other than installation to get it up and running. This is why I have a PS3, the games don't require anything beyond throwing it into the disc slot. Between a job, two children, a master's degree-in-progress, and a wife that demands that I spend time with her (crazy woman...) I simply don't have the time to devote to something more complicated.

The only real simming I do now is racing games. I can't stand arcade racers, but I will admit my G27 will be the very last hardcore gaming peripheral I will ever buy. The idea of racing with a gamepad controller is just useless to me. I seriously entertained the idea of getting Project CARS during the last Steam sale, but I realized I just didn't want to spend the money.


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I still enjoy gaming, but sims don't really do it for me like they used to. I just don't have the time to give them and I like to l like to play golf and be outside if the sun is shining. When I game now, it's typically a shooter or an RTS like the Company of Heroes games.


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I am about to hit official mid life in a few months. =( But putting aside the time or lack there of if you fall into that, its the quality of games. Their production value has gone way up and with it dumbed down to the point of why bother playing anything. Games with training wheels does not appeal if your at the 10 speed level.

So I buy fewer and fewer games while those I like I stick with for sometime. AS they have that much depth to them. If you are aiming a game at the 25 - whatever gamer that has been playing stuff since the horse and buggy your probably going to end up with something different than a game intended for someone with the mental level of an 8 year old.

Now if more games appealed to me as they where intended for a full grown man I would buy more games.

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As I get older I much prefer to pirate games simply because they work better than the legit ones. And the customer support tends to be much better and quicker to. And that is the sad, pathetic truth and the game developers know it. I've been with Ubisoft back and fourth for 1 month for them to sort out their Uplay client. Only half of their issues have been fixed. I could have just pirates my games in less time and they would have worked better to. I just sent them a f-ck you message edit.

Then lets take Codemaster's Operation Flashpoint Red River. I spent under 90 minutes playing it today. The game was #%&*$# and there was no intelligible way to change classes at the start of each mission so I exited the game to search it via Google. Found out how to do it, then loaded the game up. 2 hours later I can still to resume my progress. Corrupted saves. Download new saves. Same issue and more. I've now spent more time figuring out how to fix my game saves, which are right there; I can see them - than playing the game. I've now wasted an entire evening of my free time for nothing. I was weary of Humble Bundle ever since one of their "charities" sent "donations" to what essentially was a group of rapists. I should have known they would have no problem selling non-functional games. And their customer service is atrocious to. edit

You spend 30 minutes playing and 2 hours trouble shooting these days. And its getting worse with companies raping us with obscene prices.

I'm going to think long and hard about my next purchase and may just go straight to pirating it instead of buying it first. No reason to give these ungrateful - any money. Game devs are stuck up - who want us to be thankful for providing them job security. They should be thanking us for even taking an interest in their over valued "work".

I'd have just as much fun as I used to if the game devs let me.

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Do any of you guys think you have become a more skilful/ proficient Gamer as you got older.
Unfortunately that's not the case for me, I had to stop playing simulations seriously about a year ago.
New job that required me to go on a course which I found very demanding to say the least.
I was really looking forward to racking up some time gaming again but I found my reflexes had diminished considerably
A simulation I considered my self proficient in. and had been playing for ten years plus.
I was getting my ass handed to me on a plate every mission I thought it must be I am rusty and I will eventually get back to the standard I was before I stopped but has not been the case. I even dropped the difficulty setting

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Originally Posted By: marko1231123
I was really looking forward to racking up some time gaming again but I found my reflexes had diminished considerably


This is very common. It's one of the reasons why I barely play any kind of "twitch" first person shooters anymore. Games like Thief and Armed Assault are much more my style now.


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May be its time I hung up my gaming peripherals a bought a pair of these and a pipe. LoL


Edit If I do I am buying my wife a pair of these. anybody notice the irony LoL



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Originally Posted By: marko1231123
Do any of you guys think you have become a more skilful/ proficient Gamer as you got older.
Unfortunately that's not the case for me, I had to stop playing simulations seriously about a year ago.
New job that required me to go on a course which I found very demanding to say the least.
I was really looking forward to racking up some time gaming again but I found my reflexes had diminished considerably
A simulation I considered my self proficient in. and had been playing for ten years plus.
I was getting my ass handed to me on a plate every mission I thought it must be I am rusty and I will eventually get back to the standard I was before I stopped but has not been the case. I even dropped the difficulty setting





I've actually improved hugely in the last 10 years, especially when it comes to FPS', but increasingly this seems to be a waste as the average game becomes more console oriented. I'm prone to serious rust if I haven't played in a while but it doesn't take me long to get back up to my previous level.

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