I've sent a PM to Pol hopefully explaining that I in no way had any malice in my comments about the game\sim.

I also hope the members here don't feel that I have purposefully attacked the game and some how devalued the effort that's gone into it over the years.

I love WOFF as I said in my posts. I certainly don't want an arcade game either, if I did I wouldn't have bought all the releases\add ons and expansions that I have and will continue to do as they get released.

?.. Wodin, I for one certainly never thought you expressed any malice, only constructive criticisms which I'm sure we all appreciate. It is good of you to at least to provide this retort though as it shows your concern that things may not have been seen clearly. IMHO

You have nothing to be sorry for because you didn't do anything wrong. There is nothing wrong with constructively pointing out areas of improvement. Every single one of us that have done so have done it with a spirit of wanting to make WOFF even better. If your input hasn't been received in the spirit that it was given, then so be it.

No need to apologise Wodin comments are aimed at the thread at as a whole what the AI do or don't do.
When that AI Always Engages switch is off many factors are in play, including morale.

The whole ethos of WOFF is survival - AI especially - sometimes they do engage sometimes they won't sometimes a poor squad with poor morale and poor craft etc or other factors as discussed obviously will not engage in a campaign scenario and maybe even rarely, or never for you in a certain squad. They don't want to fight first they want to live first.

Last comment on this don't want to kick off the same thread.

OK cool Pol.

Thanks Rob and Bangoman aswell.

Wait a minute. Wait just a minute...

The below was called to my attention today. I had seen the original post but admittedly overlooked/misread Point #2, and I've not seen it mentioned elsewhere:

From WM:

"Here are OBDs plans for the future:

1) There will be ongoing addons for WOFF2 - this is a given.

2) We are working on a new non WW1 product - this is a given.

3) We are contemplating a WOFF Gold (WOFF3) and deciding what should be in it if at all."

Now, I might be the last to know, so please bear with me, but I am asking the devs: Any clarification regarding what kind of "new non-WW1 product"?

Like, WWII? I would be so happy I'd scream like a kid at Christmas!

I'd been flying CFS3-ETO, which some of these guys used to work on, but again, it has fight to the death and things like that; it's a freebee and I think current development efforts are lagging. Then I lost my cockpit sound somehow, and it seems to come down to a re-installation, which is a big pain in an area just south of my rear belt loop.

To have a WWII product of this level of quality and ease of installation would have me (and my Bf-109 loving brother-in-law, who can't fly...) turning handsprings.

I sure didn't take what Wodin was saying as a whine; I think the ability to be able to discuss things civilly is a hallmark of this particularly genteel group of simmers.

Hey, hey, there, there - I hope you can sleep tonight, Wodin.
Be assured, we all can tell a friend from a foe, I guess - and you are a friend surely!

Would love to know more about the non-WW1 product!

There is much choice on a WW2 combat flysim and I think the old CFS3 is rather limited for another 10 years, but who knows a nice pre WW2 racing game. Mercedes, Auto union, Bugatti and the Bentley boys.

That is pretty exciting, I'm quite optimistic about anything from these devs.

And Lagonda. Had a chance to drive a 34 Lagonda Rapide in a rally in 2011. Experience of a lifetime.

Do a space sim devs imagine a space sim with proper missions a "space war" going on around you..and Space sims are big news at the moment Elite Dangerous,Star Citizen,No Mans Sky Etc,go on WM and POL

I guess the devs won't tell in such an early state, or don't even know themselves, what they will go at.

In the second case, maybe you need some inspiration, devs?
Well, I am craving since many years for a good Pacific Theater simulation.
I mean, one with a really good single-player campaign.
Just my desire for something non-WW1...


Had to google that car; never heard of it before. Looks like a brother of a Bugatti?

How about a Steampunk Mech sim set during an alternative Great War.

PTO is my first choice. However, I realize the staggering number of different naval vessels needed to do it properly probably eliminates that theater. But, oh man, dive bombing? Torpedo bombing? CAP over CVs? CV campaigns? Henderson Field? Heavy bombers? Oh, man, the possibilities!

Plus, one of these:



*swoon*


Oh, well. Just gimme one of these, please:




And one of these:




And one of these:




And one of these:



WITH an option--for those of us living in countries where we are not terrified of legal geometric symbols that were crushed under our boot heels 70 years ago--to employ swastikas on German planes.

Of course, you could *really* surprise me and go this route:



Or--dare I dream it--

Well, I'm not sure what's out there for WWII as my experience base is quite narrow - but I know what ETO is like, and If these guys apply the same diligence & abilities to the original WWII European theater as they have to WOFF, it will transcend anything that I know of that's out there. But I'm willing to hear of options!

Now a WWII Pacific Theater from CFS3? It's been done, also by their former comrades, to some extent... but again, comparing ease of install and overall experience with WOFF, well, there is no comparison. The AI here is top notch, the scenery beyond compare, the work they've done on the damage models, etc etc etc...

Nice photos, JFM!

I know it's been done to death but I always like Battle of Britain. Though BoB2 does a great job in making a single player WW2 sim. So yes maybe Pacific War would be better.

Those are nice pictures JFM, but give me one of these instead.

Sweet!

I love this shot and all the right rudder: