#4193912 - 11/13/15 04:59 AM
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I'm getting a bit motion-sickened when playing FO4. I've never really had this problem before but more and more these games using blurring and chromatic aberration really gets to me. I'm pretty sensitive to it. With developers, it seems to be a trend these days for chromatic aberration. Don't see the appeal. It makes a lot of games look unappealing. I play a lot of Dying Light and C.A. is so universally shunned, a whole of slew of mods came out just to switch that nonsense off. Stupid FO4 desensitize mouse Y-axis.
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#4193922 - 11/13/15 07:07 AM
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I tend to use third person view for most of the game and then go into first person selectively - there is some weird graphics thing that can induce vertigo. Behold, Patty of the wasteland: With a few minor additions, I'm still running around in my Vault 111 jumpsuit. Note the three sets of power armor in her house.
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#4193987 - 11/13/15 02:09 PM
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I'm getting a bit motion-sickened when playing FO4. I've never really had this problem before but more and more these games using blurring and chromatic aberration really gets to me. I'm pretty sensitive to it. With developers, it seems to be a trend these days for chromatic aberration. Don't see the appeal. It makes a lot of games look unappealing. I play a lot of Dying Light and C.A. is so universally shunned, a whole of slew of mods came out just to switch that nonsense off. Stupid FO4 desensitize mouse Y-axis. Change your FOV and change your AA away from TXAA. I hate blurring, I'd rather have slightly jaggy edges on everything than a big smear of a screen.
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#4194009 - 11/13/15 03:19 PM
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I think Forbes wants your baited clicks.
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#4194024 - 11/13/15 03:44 PM
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Patty has freckles and a pony tail - the wife doesn't. The funny thing is that Sherry asked if I was making an idealized version of her, and I said no, I'm making an idealized version of what I would want to look like if I were a woman in the post-apocalypse. And that means freckles.
The wife then asked why I play female characters in games like this and my answer was that if I'm going to be looking at a character for a hundred hours it might as well have boobs and a pony tail.
But there's a huge backstory to the character that is intriguing but never hinted on in anything but the most minor ways.
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There's a folded flag in a box on the shelf in her home at the start, which is a typical memento of military service. So we can figure that either one or both of them are veterans - but the Valtec man comes and asks for her, and is very insistent that she sign up for a space (without charge).
Moments later the bombs fall, and they whisk them away to the freezers.
They take the husband and because of his token resistance kill him.
Patty gets unfrozen and enters the wasteland, where she instantly shows she knows unarmed combat, can handle just about every weapon around (including energy weapons), and power armor. Power armor is one of the few Fallout pieces of tech that was strictly for military use before the war, and only used by elite combat units. Note the many skeletons wearing standard uniforms. Hell, she can repair power armor.
Not only can she use every weapon, she can build everything from power generators to automated turrets using spoons and toy parts.
This is a woman that is so self confident with her abilities that she makes sarcastic remarks to military killing droids while holding a shotgun and wearing a jump suit.
What the hell was Patty before she attempted to play Mrs. Suburbanite?
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#4194050 - 11/13/15 05:17 PM
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Maybe Patty is related to Mr. Baker. He too has red hair but no freckles though. He does have a nasty little scar on his left eyebrow and upper nose area. This now wastelander also had military service it appears prior to that fateful day. Unlike Patty though he doesn't seem to have her extreme, high training. He probably was and infantry grunt. Or perhaps his service-related skills lye in a trade. Maybe like his favorite actor and T.V. dad, Hugh Beaumont aka Mr. Cleaver, he was a Navy Seabee. Though he thought he had finally left that kind of life behind, he now finds himself thrust into a mad and apocalyptic world with but one main objective and that is to carve whatever path of destruction is necessary to find his kidnapped child and avenge his wife's murder on those foolish enough to cross paths with this man. I was quite surprised how the rain effects looked. Very well done and atmospheric. I'm still however struggling to enjoy it as I still can't run it other than windowed borderless mode to remove the stutters and I have to play with the controller until hopefully they fix the botched key binding. Also at times, the game can just look gorgeous and other times I look out over a scene and it looks less lovely than what a good and simple mod has done for Skyrim. I'm also still getting the eye strain and sickness. So sad say I'm still struggling to give this a chance and this is the first Bethesda game I've had these issues. I also went off on my own before doing the next quest and I've only run into a handful of mosquitos and molerats. Maybe I'm just hitting it wrong but I start to feel like I'm in a broken game because there is literally no one and nothing around.
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#4194096 - 11/13/15 07:16 PM
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It does not matter how good the game is, I knew it would not be able to stand the amount of HYPE that was built before release.
The game is good by any standard, not the game of the year, but a top 5. Technical issues?, yes... for some more than for others. Which AAA game this year has been without issues at release? We all know patches will fix them. But the bar was set so high by expectations, that any bug will be seen as big issue. Plus, it is hip to bash anything successful (1.2 million copies sold in 24 hrs (not counting pre-orders), plus 450,000 concurrent players peak, which broke the 390,000 concurrent players set by Grand Theft Auto V - And that's just on PC)...broken, right.
If Bethesda made any mistake, was to wait 4 years to release (after completing Skyrim), since the technology that was revolutionary when Skyrim released (and even then people said that it look "exactly like Oblivion"), looks a bit dated today.
Bethesda games do have two things they do better than any other developer - Their stories move people, they are well written. Some say now that it is too simplistic, but it it just another manifestation of the limited number of plots games and movies use these days. But very few games offer hundreds of locations, with thousands of dialog options and now also an almost unlimited crafting and build system, that make up for any perceived lack of story depth.
The other good thing about them is longevity. This game will still be played 4-5 years from now, thanks to the developer open attitude towards modding. Skyrim is still the same game of 2011, but few would say (after mods) that it looks anything but dated.
If you play these games for only the main quest, by all means wait, since you will just barely get your money's worth. I have 340 hours logged in Skyrim, and I still feel I have still things to discover, or new approaches to find for places I have already been. I expect a similar experience with Fallout.
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#4194141 - 11/13/15 08:50 PM
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http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/11/13...out-4-came-out/Causation does not equal correlation, except when it does.
According to PornHub Vice President Corey Price in a comment to GamesBeat, the site saw a 10 percent drop in traffic among gamers after around 5am and continued until around 3pm.
Seems people were putting that sick day to good use.
Traffic began to decrease again at around 6pm and didnt return to normal levels until around 11pm when gamers presumably needed a form of release that wandering around desolate wastelands collecting caps and fighting off marauders just couldnt deliver. People need to invest in two monitors. And I wonder how much it will drop when the new Star Wars is released? The drop wont last long though as I'm sure SW based porn films will soon follow, causing a surge in traffic.
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#4194420 - 11/14/15 03:44 PM
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I don't know why people criticize the graphics. There's a lot of impressive stuff in this screenie: Note that the sunlight is backlighting the sunglasses on one side, making them transparent (which is what should happen) but the other is reflective, showing the image of the woman in front of the character. And the bump mapping. Cool.
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#4194446 - 11/14/15 05:12 PM
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Good observations Dart, but compare for example that leather armor with this here... F4 has me confused because some screens look really awesome, some screens and vids look more like Fallout 3.5 Now I agree that GFX aren't the most important thing, but I've been playing so many pretty titles recently (Metro, Witcher, Crysis 3, Far Cry4...) stepping down from that level of GFX will definitly hurt my immersion. Some of the textures in the Youtube I linked on previous page are just atrocious.
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#4194475 - 11/14/15 06:26 PM
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Good observations Dart, but compare for example that leather armor with this here...
[PIC] F4 has me confused because some screens look really awesome, some screens and vids look more like Fallout 3.5
Now I agree that GFX aren't the most important thing, but I've been playing so many pretty titles recently (Metro, Witcher, Crysis 3, Far Cry4...) stepping down from that level of GFX will definitly hurt my immersion. Some of the textures in the Youtube I linked on previous page are just atrocious. Says graphics are not the most important. Criticizes graphics as immersion killer. You are comparing different graphical/game engines. Is there one that looks better than other?, yes. Are all engines capable of the same game mechanics, and produce the same world size?, no. Moreover, Poland in the Middle Ages still was a nicer place than a post nuclear apocalypse Boston. It is fairer to compare to Fallout New Vegas or to Skyrim. It is fairer to say too, that you do not like that particular art style and then admit graphics DO matter to you. What you are saying is that Bethesda should have used a different graphics/game engine...and maybe that is true. But they did not. Skyrim was released in Nov. 2011, and there was an HD texture pack released on Feb. 2012 along with the Creation Kit. Anybody that can't look past the graphics should wait a few months for the same thing to happen to Fallout. To me, it still looks fine -
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#4194493 - 11/14/15 08:11 PM
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around how graphics matter at all. I played the Witcher, and I played Fallout 4, and they're both the same in that they're satisfactory enough not to look ridiculous. Anything more is icing on the cake and I couldn't care less.
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#4194506 - 11/14/15 08:58 PM
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As a player of Falcon BMS, I would say graphics is not the be-all and end-all of things.
As a player of The Witcher 3, I say graphics matter. I have no doubt Fallout 4 has the depth of The Witcher 3, maybe more. However, I greatly enjoyed the talking moments in TW3 simply because the models looked very good and the voice acting was very good. If Fallout 4's models look like Fallout 3, then I won't be enjoying that very much. I greatly enjoyed my trips to the wasteland in FO3 and FONV but talking to people was an exercise in "ugh!" If TW3 did not raise this bar, then I would've probably gotten FO4, but it did so I'm waiting for FO4 to go on sale.
Having said that, graphics alone isn't the reason I'm happy to wait for the sale. Reasons include BMS 4.33, not finishing TW3 yet, loads of other games in my backlog, etc. etc.
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