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#4134506 - 06/15/15 05:55 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted By: Trooper117
War is never balanced...


1:1 = germany will win the war wink

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#4134818 - 06/16/15 01:43 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted By: Trooper117
War is never balanced...


Of course its not. But a game that pushes historical correctness would you want to play Germany in April 1945? Or maybe some Poland in 1939? The player needs the ability to actually win or at least stalemate the enemy. GTOS or Mius you get into the situation with unit force structure is as close to reality as it was per history. Its not CM where the mission designer slaps some units in a scenario and says its X battle. That is fine, but not how Gravi works for the most part. Well except for the DLC shield of the Prophet.

Look at default GTOS. Folks take on the 320th infantry in one campaign. They are cut off and it is probably the 2nd hardest campaign in the series. They complain like crazy about it. Skilled players can pull out the victory conditions. But it takes experience and skill to do so. Make an entire side like that in all campaigns is not the gravi way.


In closing... You are making a game with historical correctness as much as possible. You can not readily throw out the needs of being a game for the historical fact in this case. Or in the case of Normandy every German campaign would end up being hold till dates. Which is fine IMO. But would get stale. Best if the pendulum can swing either way. Which you certainly get in the pre 43 to say 41/42 era. Germany had pretty much lost ww2 by summer 43. Basing a DLC on something like Dunkirk would be cool. I would love that actually. But not a whole game like how GTOS or Mius go about things. Going back to Normandy. You play German side. you get a company of tanks. The US/UK get like 3 or 4 battalions worth of tanks. Normandy did exactly what is was suppose to do. Overwhelm and destroy German forces in the west. It was as far as unfair as you could get in industrial era war. Great for that. Bad for a game with historical correctness.

#4134836 - 06/16/15 02:03 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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Another thought.

If I where Graviteam I probably would not make a game solely focused on early 1944 or later. With each installment the game timeline moves back. We started with mid 42 with Kharkov 1942. Then Gravi did GTOS's predecessor Kharkov 43 which you guessed it, focused on early 1943. GTOS focused on late 42 to spring 43 with a few DLC's focusing on summer 42. Mius is going to be summer 43. This one is the turning point of the war in the east. Not sure if another stand alone game after it would be worth it. Maybe best to just make DLC's for Mius that expand out to winter/spring 1944 and then move on to other fronts/wars. Because in theory it would be cool sauce to fight in summer 1944. But reality is that a whole game of your battalion of panther tanks getting hit with 6 battalions of T34's and IS tanks might actually get stale. As a large expansion. Yes.. an entire game. Not so sure.

#4135771 - 06/18/15 12:48 AM Re: Muis front [Re: FlashBurn]  
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If it's a necessity to have balance, I'd vote either Tunisia or early Bulge battle (as long as overcast lasted).

If balance is not mandatory, I'd play Germany spring 45 west front, either as german or ally. Normandy not so much, bocage battle would have me die from a heart attack at first ambush.

#4142818 - 07/04/15 01:19 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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#4158804 - 08/18/15 01:08 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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it is nearly the end of Aug, any news?

#4158876 - 08/18/15 02:59 PM Re: Muis front [Re: rostov]  
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Originally Posted By: rostov
it is nearly the end of Aug, any news?


What news do you need?
We work as before, on the Mius and SABOW.

#4159818 - 08/21/15 11:21 AM Re: Muis front [Re: andrey12345]  
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Originally Posted By: andrey12345

What news do you need?


Release date.. winkngrin

#4162144 - 08/28/15 12:45 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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#4164145 - 09/02/15 03:45 AM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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A pontoon bridge...? Good opportunity to ambush crossing tanks.... ;-)

I was expecting Mius Front to be released last year although I understand
that having other games in development that your resources are stretched.

Any chance of Mius coming out before the end of this year...?

#4164194 - 09/02/15 08:23 AM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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#4167584 - 09/11/15 01:50 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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What would be good is something like the old PS1 game Panzer Front, lot of different theaters, different periods and different skill levels. I eventually found a way to play it on a PC only to find I've lost the disc.

#4172764 - 09/24/15 10:19 AM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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Al-Ṭā’if, Mekkah Go...
how many more year

#4182418 - 10/16/15 05:07 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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#4182433 - 10/16/15 05:53 PM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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French 75mm adapted by Germans? Stop gap AT gun like US M3 GMC half track's gun?

#4182510 - 10/16/15 08:51 PM Re: Muis front [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Originally Posted By: FlashBurn
French 75mm adapted by Germans? Stop gap AT gun like US M3 GMC half track's gun?


Pak-36 (r) and its "mother"




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#4183712 - 10/20/15 02:41 AM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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Updates..... Any further news on possible release...?

Any other new tanks images you could show Andrey...? thumbsup

#4187674 - 10/29/15 06:33 AM Re: Muis front [Re: Wodin]  
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Any Videos....???

#4187676 - 10/29/15 06:41 AM Re: Muis front [Re: SSPEIPER]  
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Originally Posted By: SSPEIPER
Any Videos....???


Its all really quite on the Mius front. So its either getting close or something is stalled. Take your pick.... explode

#4189104 - 10/31/15 09:18 PM Re: Muis front [Re: FlashBurn]  
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Originally Posted By: FlashBurn


Its all really quite on the Mius front. So its either getting close or something is stalled. Take your pick.... explode



I assume it hasn't stalled given that Andrey posted those images
of the AT Guns, although the information has been few and far between.

To be honest, if I wanted to get people interested in the release of
an upcoming game I would be posting a lot more images / videos etc...
to create a buzz and have more people discussing it and therefore
achieve better sales.

I had expected this out before this time last year but obviously it
has taken a back seat to other things.....Unfortunately!!!

Even a rough ETA and some more images would suffice for now.

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