#4190085 - 11/03/15 11:50 AM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Great stuff! Thank you so much for making this. Does it work with 4.33, or is there some tweaking required? Edit: I'm setting up my system to run Falcon 4.33 with a Warthog, Saitek Combat Pro pedals, and Helios with your profile. I haven't had time to dig into it yet, but my hope is to have it up and running when the weekend comes.
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#4190448 - 11/04/15 01:08 AM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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It is indeed running with 4.33 using my old .key file. You will want to get the latest MFDE program as well as the older ones are obviously not compatible with 4.33.
It will take some time for me to update my .key file to include the changes in the 4.33 .key files but for the purposes of the Viper, my .key file should work fine.
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#4190727 - 11/04/15 06:38 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Can this work without a touch screen? Do the MFDs display on the second monitor?
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#4190823 - 11/04/15 10:07 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Well, you can use the Cougar MFDs but that meant that you were limited to putting them at the edges of the screen. I felt that the "real estate" of a 22" or 24" monitor was too precious to waste on it so I "built in" the MFDs.
specialksl, it is indeed designed to work with a touchscreen. That is the whole purpose of it!
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#4192288 - 11/08/15 05:54 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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That sure is a good looking profile, thanks for making it!
That said, I'm having a bit of trouble getting Helios to talk to Falcon.. I have your profile running in Helios like it should, or so it seems, it's just not sending anything to Falcon. The keyfile (Ices BMS WH Profile v4.key) is in "Falcon BMS 4.33\User\Config" and loaded in the setup inside the sim.
I see no where inside Helios to point it at the BMS install dir, like with DCS profiles? Is that right?
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#4192351 - 11/08/15 08:28 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Tell Helios to look for Falcon 4.32 HardTale, I am using an iiyama ProLite touchscreen, but others have used Dell and other brands as well. I would recommend getting a 24" one.
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#4192383 - 11/08/15 09:56 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Tell Helios to look for Falcon 4.32 Oh I told it so, multiple times, but it just sat there, making faces at me and rolling it's little eyes.. No, seriously, when opening your profile and trying to add interface, I had no Falcon entry in the menu. So I was beginning to think Helios should be pointed at BMS in some other magical way.. However, by making a new blank profile, Falcon appeared in the menu, and then I just copied your profile over, from another instance of the profile editor. All is well now (I hope)
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#4193225 - 11/10/15 11:54 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Updated the blog page to include a new profile and .key file that works for BMS 4.33. I've only spent a day on it so there still might be problems that I've not found/fixed.
If you find any, please feel free to post them here! Thanks!
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#4194245 - 11/13/15 11:54 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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No, seriously, when opening your profile and trying to add interface, I had no Falcon entry in the menu. So I was beginning to think Helios should be pointed at BMS in some other magical way.. However, by making a new blank profile, Falcon appeared in the menu, and then I just copied your profile over, from another instance of the profile editor. All is well now (I hope) After working with Helios for a few hours again, I understand now what is happening. Falcon is not an "entry in the menu" because it is already added. The menu only shows you what you have not added yet. In order to see the Falcon tab and to update the .key file or whatever, go to the Profile Explorer, click on the > beside Interfaces, and then double-click on Falcon. A new tab should open up and you can set the Falcon version you are running and change/update the .key file as necessary.
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#4194246 - 11/13/15 11:55 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Going through my profile today and have managed to double check all switches and knobs and hopefully everything is working fine now. I've added a few switches such as the MWS and EWS switches on the CMDS panel and the new buttons on the ICP (WX, FLIR). The new manual frequency knobs of the Backup UHF panel has not been put in yet and is a bit low on the priority list --- I don't think this will be needed with any great urgency anytime soon so I'm putting it off for later.
I've also managed to make the JFS, Autopilot (Pitch), and Parking Brake switches respond to changes in the cockpit. The Landing Gear also syncs with the aircraft, going to the up or down position as necessary at the start of the mission, but this sync is quite temperamental. I think if you can keep focus on the BMS window, Helios will pick up whatever it needs to pick up to sync the LG. However, sometimes my PC will lose focus on the BMS window... need to test this out a bit more.
Obviously with the new .key file, much of the throttle buttons and switches are now sending callbacks they shouldn't be. This is because in Morphine's profile, the 32 DX buttons that can be assigned to "one" controller is mostly used up on the stick so almost all of the commands assigned to the throttle are done via the TARGET profile and it does so by issuing key commands and not callbacks. I've re-assigned the easily-accessed switches to what they're supposed to be and these are the ones that are on the throttle itself. The switches/buttons on the throttle base are still "Morphine's profile" so that needs fixing as well. However, most of his commands are what I already have in the Front Console of my profile. Things such as Master Arm, Landing Gear, Laser Arm, RF Norm, CAT switch, Parking Brake, etc. so I think it's best if I just re-map these to what is most useful.... for instance, I was thinking of mapping the Landing Gear Up/Down command to the flaps switch at the bottom of the throttle. The reason for this is accessibility. I think in the real jet, the pilot doesn't even have to look down to locate and operate the landing gear lever; the size and location of the lever leaves no room for error and the pilot could find it in the dark, I would think. This is the same for the flaps switch.... just follow the throttle down the left side to the base and even in pitch blackness, it'll be a miracle if you miss the flaps lever!
Another candidate is the CATI/CATIII switch along with the Emergency Jettison button. Sometimes, I get jumped by enemy fighters and I need to dump my ordnance and go CAT I and during these times, seconds matter. With a little practice, I can press the AP Engage/Disengage button and throw the EAC switch forward without even looking down at my throttle. Also, pressing a real button and throwing a real switch can be much rougher compared to the "delicate" motions you need when operating stuff on a touchscreen.
So, any suggestions for what other commands/callbacks I can map to the switches at the TM WH base?
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#4196929 - 11/20/15 10:11 PM
Re: -Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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I'm on Win7 64bit as well.
Try downloading again. Could be a corrupted download. Note that I posted a new profile yesterday... make sure you are using the new TM WH profile, the new Helios profile, and the new .key file.
Thanks!
- Ice
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