Da same mostly holds true for all 2 sweater attacks even if they ain't got a cut out in da floor.

The Aviatik CI is the exception.

Best advice I can give on taking down a hard two sweater bird is fly as the prey, the two sweater.

An Aviatik CI victory is a hard fought one.

Most of the time the mouse just lives to see another day.

But when the mouse becomes the Cat...that is golden...

Well - that didn't last very long

Decided to start in a Roland a few days before the Battle of the Somme Started
Had high hopes of surviving until the Alb DI was introduced

This is my first pilot where I have decided to turn the TAC off
It made the whole flight very exciting

How do they expect us to recon anything in this crap?



Without the TAC I am terrified of losing my flight
I stay as close as possible the whole time



Over the front I look up and am relieved to see that we have a couple of Eindekkers escorting us



That soon all goes to hell
A couple on Nupes attack us
They decide that as I am the new boy they both concentrate on me



During this the othet two Rolands continue to bravely run away
The two escorting Eindekkers do the same
At first I was really PO'ed about this
But I guess they were trying to accomplish the recon mission?
That's how I decided to RP it anyway

After taking many many hits I have to look for somewhere to put it down



Managed to stop just short of both the telegraph pole and the trees



Didn't help me though - I died from my wounds before medical assistance could be administered

I am now thinking that instead of thinking long term - ie. start in a crap machine and work my way up, I should instead be thinking in terms of - pick a machine I like and just try to survive in it

I have said it before but I will say it again

WW1 aviation is Frikkin' deadly

As a PS
Very much enjoyed my first patrol with the TAC turned off
When I had it turned on, after a fight or evasion, I always knew I could just follow the line to get back to my flight
Without it now I am a lot more cagey - I get separation anxiety if I cannot see the rest of my guys for too long
Way more immersive - Loving it

Have dialled back the labels so that I get DOTS at 4000 (is that yards or meters - I suppose it doesn't really matter)
And until within 1000 I get no friendly or enemy info

It made the whole flight much more exciting
The whole time my head was on as swivel worrying about what was going on around me

I may have to buy a silk scarf to save my neck - WOFF is that good

Well, the Roland CII is actually a pretty good 2 seater. I'd give it another run. Try to give your gunner reasonably good, stable lines of fire and you should do OK, of course, one on two vs. Nieuports isn't really fair. You really can't out-turn them, so try to turn like a snake, when you turn right, wait for them to turn right and then quickly go left. As they come around, wait until they are committed and go right again. This will hopefully shake them off your tail for a few secs and give your gunner a fair shot. I also skip a few days after every mission in my careers to simulate the boring, uneventful missions because when I'm flying, I like some action. That may help that DI show up a little sooner!
Good luck and report back with results!

This seems very good advice
I think part of the problem was - having just come from an Alb DI - I was trying to fly it like a fighter
That's just not going to work
May well give it another go tomorrow
Cheers Rick

Upon reflection - I see where I went wrong

The two Nupes attacked me because I was the last in the formation - I panicked and dove away
The other two Rolands and also the two Eindekkers watched me dive away and thought - 'where the hell is that fella going?'

I should have stayed close to the two Rolands and my Eindekker escort for protection

In short - the enemy AI picked me off because I was an easy target

Again - good work WOFF

That Roland can dive very well.

Don't be surprised if Fokker escorts flee for home at the first sight of enemy scouts. They know they are outclassed and try to save their own skin, sort of a live to run another day motto. I often felt like the Rolands were escorting the Fokkers...

Rupert Linderbrook
Jasta 17
Sep 1917, Flanders


Air field Defense:

5 Mix Albatross D-5 and D-III OAW.


Mixed it up with some 2 seat types good little shoot out.

2 Albatross Scouts damaged
1 Enemy 2 seat type shot down by wing men


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Rupert Linderbrook
Jasta 17
Sep 1917, Flanders


Squeeked by another air to air melee with N-24,s A flt of 5 attacked out of the sun good mixer from 9000 down to the deck kinda Blue Max among the trees.


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Rupert Linderbrook
Jasta 17
Sep 1917, Flanders




Got into it with 1 flight Camels and 1 flight Strutters ( with Rear Gun) Guess what ?


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I don't want to know!

You heard the rear gunner in the Strutter yell in agony as you filled him with bullets?

Rupert Linderbrook
Jasta 17
Oct 1917, Flanders


Our a/c kette went for a Balloon this morning. 4 stayed high and I peeled off following Becker. He got the Balloon then as we rejoined the kette as 2 Camels swung through firing. A Mad House with twisting and turning. I couldn't get a shot at them. They turned that fast. then everyone was dispersed and we RTB in ones and two,s.


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Carrick, Rupert was lucky they weren't behind him!

Thats the truth. They turn so fast I couldn't get a beed on them with my D-III OAW.

First off, Devs, thank you. This game is amazing.

A couple of notes: I have unlimited ammo on and gun jams off. My 3 year old likes to sit on my lap and fire the guns for me, so the guns are going pretty much constantly. (He also continually asks to shoot the red plane. I wonder what Manfred did to him in a past life, because it is definitly personal).


Flt Lt John K. Nuck
10 May 17
10 RNAS

I arrived at my sqn this morning weary and ready to settle in and meet the new guys. Before the engine on my Tripe had finished spinning the Major was out to introduce himself and inform me that I was going up on an intercept. Straight into the fire as it were.

Im not sure who my flight mates are, but Im sure they will help me out if I get into trouble.

We took off and headed South towards a bulge in the Front. The trip was uneventful, although one of the chaps dropped out and turned back. We were three as we crossed the lines into Hunland. We circled for some tim in clear skies, drinking in the scenery when the Germans sent up a balloon directly beneath us.

I was keen to introduce myself, being new to the show, so I dove down to give the Hun spotters a propper hello. The resulting explosion attracted the attention of a couple of Albatross who asked for a dance. I engaged, expecting my flight mates to give a hand. They were content to watch, however, so I was left one on two.

I got on the tail of one and sent some lead through his airframe. Of course his friend thought that was a poor show and he did the same to me. Fortunately, he was a poor shot; I will be more keen to check my tail next time. For some reason my attacker broke off and ran away, leaving me alone on the tail of an Albattoss. My first rounds must have damaged his controls because he was not moving around very well. I closed quickly remembering what my gunnery instructor said about getting close and aiming for the engine. Three bursts was all it took and he went in hard. One less foe to do the Kaiser's bidding!

I reformed with the flight and we headed back to the Aerodrome safely. I claimed the balloon and the Albatross and finally got to meet the other chaps in the Squadron. What an exciting morning!

Yes, certainly is, DC, but mind you: it is NOT a game - you'll find out...


Hahahaaaa!!! This is so cute -much better than the average combat reports usually are!
I almost spilled my coffee - I can really see him sitting there on your laps like in
a combat fighter airplane! Brilliant!

Ludenvoss seems to be doing well...for a bus driver that is.


This happened while taking off, of all things!

11 May 1917
Flt Lt John K. Nuck
10 RNAS

This morning it was an escort flight for two recce planes. I was flying Collishaw's wing. It was a lovely day for a Bosh hunt, if I do say so myself.

The flight was uneventful until a couple of Huns came out for a game of tag. I dont know if it was the beautiful weather or just general weariness, but neither side seemed particularly interested in shooting anybody down. Mostly, we just circled and scowled at each other until both us and the huns decided lunch was probably ready at the Aerodrome.

I landed quite without incident and made for the mess tent. It was there that the most interesting part of the day occurred.

I was enjoying a coffee with Ray Collishaw, Ellis Reid, Gerry Nash, Will Alexander and John Sharman. (it is never a good idea to leave this many Canadians alone together. Trouble always ensues) Anyways, Ray suggests we should all paint our Tripes black as a way of taunting the Huns. Could you imagine it? A bunch of black Tri-planes dancing through the skies like Death himself. Well, I thought it a capital idea and have bribed a rating to get the ball rolling. I've named her "Black Wolf" Hopefully, I can get someone to take a picture of it tomorrow when we go up!

13 May 1917
Flt Lt John K. Nuck
10 RNAS

The CO confirmed both my kills today! Im very excited and have added the kall markrs to Black Wolf. She is a fine looking plane, but I do wonder how the enemy will react when they see it in the sky.


Today they sent me up as flight leader, which definitely had me nervous. Most of these guys have tons of experience. We were to attack an observation baloon about 30 miles away. The flight there was without incident, but I was a little jumpy on the apporach and missed most of my shots wide. The boys behind me finished up the job, with William Alexander finishing it off.

The CO was right chipper that we got the job done with no losses.