Got the $45 today in my paypal acct. Took about a week. Probably just sending it on to Warships. LOL
Yeah good progress, they replied today to confirm that I wanted my $45 refunded and my account closed, and I confirmed and told them I'll revisit after it releases, so here's hoping
Looking forward to just being someone who follows SC progress with hope and interest instead of being sour and worried.
I was a VB, had a few LTI ships and 'free' tat. Happy to have the $300 back now. If it all works out I'll buy the game on release and start from the bottom. The people who are in for tens of thousands of dollars HAVE to believe the game will turn in to the dream they want it to be.
I was watching some of the Citizen Con videos and saw that they hired Gary Oldman, Mark Hammil and Gillian Anderson to do the voice acting using some fancy face scanning animation software:
Looks pretty good but I can't help wonder/worry how much it cost to get such established actors and to animate them?
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Well I definitely agree that hiring these people is a farcical waste of time and money. The effort just to secure them would have been enormous, let alone the cost associated with that.
There are thousands of excellent budding actors that would do this for a fraction of the cost with no detriment to the game, and far less time wasted procuring this talent.
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To be fair, Chris Roberts has a history with Mark Hamill (Wing Commander series), so this isn't much of a stretch to secure his efforts. Mark Hamill and Gillian Anderson have both done video game voice-overs as well (MH as Joker in the Batman games, and GA did the ship's voice in Microsoft's version of Terminal Velocity).
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To criticise CIG for employing top actors is a bit odd really.
Though I do understand your concerns as to the cost of them, as this is a crowd funded game, etc. So the cost of everything concerned in it should be weighed up very carefully, bang for the buck and all that...
However would you criticise the next Mad Max film for using Ernie Sanders in the lead role? You know Ernie, he works at the local supermarket but has done some really stirling work at his local theatre company and recently excelled in their version of Hamlet, he's also appeared in a couple of TV commercials, you know the insect repellent ones, where he plays that large fly, you really would believe a man could...fly!
Hmmmm, I think you might!
It comes down to this, could a relatively unknown actor do any of the A list films or TV shows you see? Answer... Probably. But top actors are usually top actors for a reason, that reason is... Here's a shocker... they are bloody good actors, they bring real and credible performances to the role. Sounds a bit simplistic doesn't it? But it's the truth. I think we can all remember cringing during some voice over in a game that was just plain awful or watching a B movie that was over acted,etc.
Using A list stars also gives your product a certain kudos, it's like an endorsement for a product, if I told you that the piece of jewellery I'm wearing was fab and the best thing since sliced bread you would say "so what", but if a "star" / "celebrity" endorses it people will be impressed and much more likely to aspire to wanting to own it, this then makes more sales and off sets the cost of paying the "star" to endorse it in the first place, that may be illogical but it is how it is.
You shouldn't criticise a game for doing what every other media format does and has been doing since the dawn of the media.
Well I definitely agree that hiring these people is a farcical waste of time and money. The effort just to secure them would have been enormous, let alone the cost associated with that.
There are thousands of excellent budding actors that would do this for a fraction of the cost with no detriment to the game, and far less time wasted procuring this talent.
Agree with this entirely! SC has such a huge following and has generated a huge sum of money already, without needing to get well known actors to hype the game further. Just because a few famous faces will add their voices to some cut scenes will not be a deciding factor for future sales... total waste of money
Also remember that they didnt spend full movie budgets on these actors. They spent a little over voice actor money on them. MH does very cheap voice acting work, he is just particular as to what role he takes. So I doubt they spent a million on all of these guys considering they only hired them for about a months worth of work.
Also having high named actors brings in more money. There has been a ton of good press over the named actors which has brought in a ton more pre orders that they might not have gotten with b list actors. Its also free publicity they dont have to pay for in magazines and tv spots. (in fact their advertisement sofar has been 0)
People are going to criticize them no matter what at this point. But it does seem strange to criticize them on this particular point lol.
People are going to criticize them no matter what at this point. But it does seem strange to criticize them on this particular point lol.
Not so strange to be surprised by it or to question it.
I've been waiting a long time to be able to play this game in single player mode and this was the first time we finally got a look at the S42 career gameplay, and seeing Gary Oldman digitized and animated was not something I had expected.
I just hope the S42 gameplay is well along in development and that we don't have another 2 years to wait.
I agree that the star billing will definitely get SC some additional media coverage, so that's a good silver lining.
With a currently standard rate of just under $800 per day for voice acting, talent is not as expensive as you would think. While we don't know what rates they got, and that some of them did full performance capture as well as voice the rates will surely be a bit higher.
I have seen that now that the cast list is out, they the star, have started posting about it on social media sites, Gillian Anderson was messaging that she was really excited to work with Gary Oldman in Star Citizen, and that Mark Hamill was tweeting that he was really happy to be working with his old friend Chris Roberts.
This should bring the awareness of the game to lots of other people that would not necessarily see it.
So, are we going to get a Space Gollem in the game
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SC hit a million backers today, I saw the other day that Star Wars battlefront has had 9 million people playing the beta.
A million players is a lot but as can be seen, there's an awful lot of future growth still possible with SC, so maybe the A list cast, delivery of SC 2.0 this year and continued development will actually pay off after all and will achieve a much much larger fan base than there is at present!
Star Wars is a global entity that has had many years of growth behind it with an absolutely massive following. Anything with star wars attached to it will sell like hot cakes.
SC on the other hand has yet to prove itself, plus it's a completely (or will be) a different type of game. I'm hoping all will come to fruition mind you... I have bought into it in a modest fashion, and am looking forward to it's squadron 42 campaign.
The Star Wars game (and all the movies after the first three) have coasted completely on brand recognition; they really aren't good at all as standalone products.
That being said, as a backer I find that Star Citizen in general is a massive train wreck that's hard to look away from
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Star Wars is a global entity that has had many years of growth behind it with an absolutely massive following. Anything with star wars attached to it will sell like hot cakes.
SC on the other hand has yet to prove itself, plus it's a completely (or will be) a different type of game. I'm hoping all will come to fruition mind you... I have bought into it in a modest fashion, and am looking forward to it's squadron 42 campaign.
Yes, that I appreciate. My point was that some people have been saying that it is a waste of backers money to pay for those A listers for S42 when they have already got such a large fan base, By quoting the SW figure I was trying to highlight that, yes, 1 million is a lot of backers, but potentially you could have maybe 10 times that number.
Probably not realistic or even likely, but if only a tenth of that figure is achieved as a direct result of having those stars signed then it will have been worth the outlay. Time will tell, as they say.