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#4172940 - 09/24/15 04:59 PM VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch.  
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If I understood his post, the HAWK advanced FM is being restarted from scratch. With no proper weapons yet and the advanced FM still far far away I lost all my interest in this one until is out of "beta".

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#4172948 - 09/24/15 05:12 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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It sounds more like the problem is with the ASM which was coded by the same guy that is no longer with the C-101 team.


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#4172952 - 09/24/15 05:21 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Dang. Surprising since he is a smart guy. I wonder what he did to colossally goon up both projects.


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#4172962 - 09/24/15 05:46 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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#4172978 - 09/24/15 06:19 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Well first of all, having one guy on 3 different teams is a recipe for disaster. All the teams seemed to be getting ready for release which means crunch time. One person on two(or 3) teams can't do crunch time on all of them , plus it seems there were issues with source code, iow, while the teams may have a guy doing their AFM/ASM does not mean they own the source code.

#4173086 - 09/25/15 12:41 AM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Too bad, as I did purchase this one. At least the cockpit is getting updated. I found it to be lower quality than the other planes I have.

#4173134 - 09/25/15 07:33 AM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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I really wish them good luck! Also the AvioDev Team!

And I really wish ED had been more communicative with the 3. party devs on how they will implement the tandem cockpit into DCS World. It's really a shame that they now have to write most if the ASM from the begining.


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#4173208 - 09/25/15 02:18 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Well, it will eventually get done I guess. I also hope the cockpit gets upgraded being as I'm disappointed with the textures.


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#4173330 - 09/25/15 05:54 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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On your 6 o'clock, messing wit...
This is absolute FUBAR.
I find it VERY weird that VEAO AND Aviodev both made statements regarding internal affairs, and "Tango" is banned from the ED Forums coincidently. I know he worked for both, but knowing the guy he was more than up for it. This shows me there is some VERY weird and fishy #%&*$# going on at ED!


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#4173339 - 09/25/15 06:15 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: MTFDarkEagle]  
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Originally Posted By: MTFDarkEagle
This is absolute FUBAR.
I find it VERY weird that VEAO AND Aviodev both made statements regarding internal affairs, and "Tango" is banned from the ED Forums coincidently. I know he worked for both, but knowing the guy he was more than up for it. This shows me there is some VERY weird and fishy #%&*$# going on at ED!


I am sure Tango got to tell his side of the story before he was banned wink

#4173344 - 09/25/15 06:25 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Mustang60348]  
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On your 6 o'clock, messing wit...
Originally Posted By: Mustang60348
Originally Posted By: MTFDarkEagle
This is absolute FUBAR.
I find it VERY weird that VEAO AND Aviodev both made statements regarding internal affairs, and "Tango" is banned from the ED Forums coincidently. I know he worked for both, but knowing the guy he was more than up for it. This shows me there is some VERY weird and fishy #%&*$# going on at ED!


I am sure Tango got to tell his side of the story before he was banned wink

Really? C'mon, it's the ED forum where the sensorship is the same level as the USSR... No he hasn't. If he had, it would have been deleted.


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#4173347 - 09/25/15 06:33 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: MTFDarkEagle]  
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Originally Posted By: MTFDarkEagle
Originally Posted By: Mustang60348
Originally Posted By: MTFDarkEagle
This is absolute FUBAR.
I find it VERY weird that VEAO AND Aviodev both made statements regarding internal affairs, and "Tango" is banned from the ED Forums coincidently. I know he worked for both, but knowing the guy he was more than up for it. This shows me there is some VERY weird and fishy #%&*$# going on at ED!


I am sure Tango got to tell his side of the story before he was banned wink

Really? C'mon, it's the ED forum where the sensorship is the same level as the USSR... No he hasn't. If he had, it would have been deleted.


Didn't you notice my WINK at the end.

#4173348 - 09/25/15 06:35 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Who is Tango ?

#4173349 - 09/25/15 06:36 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Mustang60348]  
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On your 6 o'clock, messing wit...
Originally Posted By: Mustang60348
Originally Posted By: MTFDarkEagle
Originally Posted By: Mustang60348
Originally Posted By: MTFDarkEagle
This is absolute FUBAR.
I find it VERY weird that VEAO AND Aviodev both made statements regarding internal affairs, and "Tango" is banned from the ED Forums coincidently. I know he worked for both, but knowing the guy he was more than up for it. This shows me there is some VERY weird and fishy #%&*$# going on at ED!


I am sure Tango got to tell his side of the story before he was banned wink

Really? C'mon, it's the ED forum where the sensorship is the same level as the USSR... No he hasn't. If he had, it would have been deleted.


Didn't you notice my WINK at the end.

Yes - but didn't connect the meaning to it. (my bad)
Don't really find this debate "wink-able" though..

Last edited by MTFDarkEagle; 09/25/15 06:36 PM.

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#4173350 - 09/25/15 06:37 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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On your 6 o'clock, messing wit...
Originally Posted By: Tom_Weiss
Who is Tango ?

He *was* lead-developer for VEAO and (lead?)developer for Aviodev.


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#4173352 - 09/25/15 06:39 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Originally Posted By: Tom_Weiss
Who is Tango ?


http://forums.eagle.ru/member.php?u=56129

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#4173353 - 09/25/15 06:41 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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Wasn't Tango also the guy who did the F-16 Flight Model as an example or am I thinking of the wrong guy

#4173354 - 09/25/15 06:42 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Mustang60348]  
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On your 6 o'clock, messing wit...
Originally Posted By: Mustang60348
Wasn't Tango also the guy who did the F-16 Flight Model as an example or am I thinking of the wrong guy

No - different guy.
The one you're thinking of is CptSmiley.


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#4173355 - 09/25/15 06:43 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: Stratos]  
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No that was Cpt.Smiley

Edit : sniped

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#4173357 - 09/25/15 06:44 PM Re: VEAO Hawk Advanced FM is need to be done from scratch. [Re: EightBall]  
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Originally Posted By: EightBall
Originally Posted By: Tom_Weiss
Who is Tango ?


http://forums.eagle.ru/member.php?u=56129

I've brought your protective blanket so you can go over there safely.
But don't stay for too long, you know how bad it is for your health

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thank you ! thumbsup

that place .... is such a toxic environment .... glad to be back.

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