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#4168236 - 09/13/15 08:41 AM Re: PWCG update.. ***** [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Maybe the Dev's at CLoD should have employed them winkngrin then everyone could have benefitted

The problem with the restrictive noose of profits, is that without them there would be no games developed at all

Cheers Dakpilot

#4168514 - 09/14/15 07:26 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Well despite all the varying opinions and takes on the future of BOS....it would appear that work is progressing to make it better and better all the time. Not sure what the long term future prospects are for the series with the current DX9 situation..but it looks like we are going to have a lot of fun the next couple of years for sure...
Well maybe I should clarify and not speak for so many....I'm looking forward to the next couple of years...

#4168616 - 09/14/15 01:38 PM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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What happened to the dude that was working on this before pat? He posted here saying he got the code and some help from pat.

Pat and him working together on it maybe?

#4168667 - 09/14/15 03:22 PM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Perhaps... I just think it is a good thing that it is happening.


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#4168686 - 09/14/15 03:50 PM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Some people need to visit the Strike Fighters/First Eagles forums and see just what people have done for free.

There have been payware ones, yes, but they are far outnumbered by the free ones, and on average the pay ones haven't been the best, just the most consistent.




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#4168963 - 09/15/15 03:15 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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A PWCG for IL2 BOS is great news! It looks like I might reinstall it in the end.

#4168984 - 09/15/15 04:52 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Looks like PWCG will also be for the Summer and Autumn maps as well, from, a post by Pat recently

Cheers Dakpilot

#4169429 - 09/16/15 12:02 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Hi all,

I wanted to take a moment to talk about PWCG for BoS. I have been working on this for a couple of months now. It is finally in a state where I am debugging mission generation, ths the recent questions. It will take a bit longer to get done. Expect something around November.

RoF PWCG users will be right at home. There is a great deal of similarity in mission profile between WWI and WWII on the eastern front, which was almost purely a tactical air war. This allowed me to reuse most of RoF PWCG mission generation code.

PWCG for BoS will, by necessity, be a bit different. The biggest, obvious difference is that BoS is a series of battles and not a continuous war. PWCG will initially support only the Battle of Stalingrad from August 1942 to February 1943. Initially, it will always be winter. Hooks are in place to add more battles and maps as they become available. If/when summer and fall come to Stalingrad that too will be supported.

In the future, when there is more than one battle available, pilots will start a career at a point of their choosing within the scope of available battles. When a battle ends the pilot will move to the next battle. Using the current plans as an example, a pilot will be able to start in Moscow, fight that battle, and then move to Stalingrad. He will not be able to start in Stalingrad and then go back in time to Moscow. If it ever comes to pass that two battles overlap PWCG will allow transfers between them.

Missions will include fighter, dive bomber, attack plane, and level bomber. Fighters will fly intercept, patrol, scramble, escort and possibly attack missions. Dive bombers and attack aircraft will be limited to that role. Level bombers will get primarily bombing missions but may also get recon.

Some items - WWIisms - have been removed. No artillery spot or balloon missions. Recon takes a back seat to bombing. Night missions will not be supported in the initial release. The ability to play as an observer has been removed, so you will always be the pilot. Depending on demand some of these features may be added back in, but for the initial release they have to be left on the cutting room floor.

Historical aces are not there yet. All of the code to support them is there but I just don't have the time to do the data entry. If somebody out there is willing to do it I will add it.

#4169438 - 09/16/15 12:47 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Thanks for the update and all your hard work!


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#4169459 - 09/16/15 01:41 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Excellent update Pat...thanks!


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#4169464 - 09/16/15 02:29 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Force10]  
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Thank you Pat. Looking better and better for BOM/BOS. cheers


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#4169484 - 09/16/15 03:33 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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salute


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#4169488 - 09/16/15 03:54 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Great news! Thanks for the update.

#4169512 - 09/16/15 05:47 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Wonderful.....

#4169514 - 09/16/15 05:53 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Cheers for the update Pat, I can't wait to try PWCG for BOS, as it will be 99% better than the woeful SP we have just now.


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#4169522 - 09/16/15 06:57 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Thank you Pat!


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#4169551 - 09/16/15 09:10 AM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Looking forward to it.
I'll gladly give a "necessary donation" on your homepage, once it is out.

#4169645 - 09/16/15 01:25 PM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Pat deserves an "above and beyond" medal if ever anyone did. Thank you, sir.




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#4169765 - 09/16/15 05:56 PM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Thanks for posting, Pat. Your work is clearly appreciated by many in the community! thumbsup

#4169853 - 09/16/15 09:26 PM Re: PWCG update.. [Re: Bearcat99]  
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Great news, Pat! Thanks for the update thumbsup


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