#4015446 - 09/28/14 08:49 AM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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Similarly to all early digital radars, it can track just a few target. You do not want to overload its precious little memory with false targets (ground reflection, cloud reflection, etc).
Imagine Volhov with a limitation of only 6 return can be drawn.
Solution is to use SDC always on, with doppler threshold speed is selected to be fairly high, to be on the safe side against of high speed wind blown clouds.
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#4017742 - 10/03/14 09:46 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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We generally has no information on modern* SAM equipment.
* fielded after the Cold War ended
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#4018180 - 10/04/14 10:35 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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If the ALARM is hanging on a chute waiting on the SAM to say hi, it's too late for the SAM. Would a modern radar, say the 92N6E or the AN/MPQ-65, be able to engage the ALARM under the parachute? If the limitation is based on memory, it seems like they should be able to.
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#4018282 - 10/05/14 05:50 AM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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If the ALARM is hanging on a chute waiting on the SAM to say hi, it's too late for the SAM. Why so?
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#4019316 - 10/07/14 06:00 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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Because the ALARM has already gotten itself into attack position. The real opportunity that you had to stop it was while it was on its way there. Once it's hanging on that chute, it's going to attack within a couple of seconds (detach from chute and guide to target), while you need probably 15-30 sec to detect, classify, realize it's not a spurious contact (that's assuming your radar is looking that high, and in a non-TBM application it may well not be), and attack - by which time that ALARM is probably already sitting in the Rmin for your system, if not blowing up one of your radars.
With SEAD/DEAD, timing is everything.
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#4019320 - 10/07/14 06:12 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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Because the ALARM has already gotten itself into attack position. The real opportunity that you had to stop it was while it was on its way there. Once it's hanging on that chute, it's going to attack within a couple of seconds (detach from chute and guide to target), while you need probably 15-30 sec to detect, classify, realize it's not a spurious contact (that's assuming your radar is looking that high, and in a non-TBM application it may well not be), and attack - by which time that ALARM is probably already sitting in the Rmin for your system, if not blowing up one of your radars.
With SEAD/DEAD, timing is everything. All of this would be true if the SAM was alone on the field... ALARM in particular was withdrawn from service - a bit strange for such effective weapon... Maybe something goes wrong with this concept?
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#4019323 - 10/07/14 06:20 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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Because the ALARM has already gotten itself into attack position. The real opportunity that you had to stop it was while it was on its way there. Once it's hanging on that chute, it's going to attack within a couple of seconds (detach from chute and guide to target), while you need probably 15-30 sec to detect, classify, realize it's not a spurious contact (that's assuming your radar is looking that high, and in a non-TBM application it may well not be), and attack - by which time that ALARM is probably already sitting in the Rmin for your system, if not blowing up one of your radars.
With SEAD/DEAD, timing is everything. Medium/long range SAM units need close range defence. Here is the Russian answer for that challenge... This is not a new concept. Originally, when Dvina was fielded in the 60's, each battery received S-60 later ZU-23-2 for self defense. In the 90's Hungarian Vega was defended by one Neva plus Igla's.
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#4019332 - 10/07/14 06:42 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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Valid points. And so with those in mind I ask ... do you believe that this ALARM missile is alone? Do you believe that there aren't any air-launched decoys hanging around, wild weasels ready to bait SAMs, and that only a single missile of a single type will be launched, in a single attack mode? Not saying you're wrong, just saying that you're moving the goalposts now
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#4197595 - 11/22/15 07:02 PM
Re: Anti-Radiation missiles
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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