#4132890 - 06/12/15 10:30 AM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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That happens when a company saves time and money by using software already becoming obsolete.
The actual used DN-engine is developed to its limits, there will be no improvements.
But then, according to some, this is the CFG for tomorrow.
Perhaps one could look at it as a CFG for today...maybe some developer can spend 8 years creating the 'CFG for tomorrow' ....oh wait, that turned out financially well for the Dev's/producers Cheers Dakpilot CloD was developed for 8 years?
Dogfighting is what you do "after" you drop your bombs and blow something up! Can you say "JABO!"
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#4132898 - 06/12/15 10:45 AM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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Unfortunately bean counters are a sad reality of life
If a visionary makes a product that cost X million but a 'bean counter' realises it is not going to recover that X million are they wrong to cover themselves?
For that visionary project to have fulfilled its promises a price would have to have been paid by customers that no-one would have been prepared to pay.
We would all like the perfect 'Sim' but bean counters have seen there is not the customer base or budget to create it, sadly harsh economic realities are an obstacle to 'visionary products' however much we would like it to be otherwise
Cheers Dakpilot Bean counters ran the banks on Wall Street that collapsed in 2008. Don't hold them in too high esteem. They are just as fallible as visionary game designers and could have gotten cold feet and pulled the plug on CloD too early just as easily as if they were right to pull the plug. They occupy no rarified air and are guessing just as often as the next guy.
Dogfighting is what you do "after" you drop your bombs and blow something up! Can you say "JABO!"
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#4132899 - 06/12/15 10:46 AM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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CloD was developed for 8 years? First time I've heard about "Storm of War" new engine development was in 2003, at the same time PF was developped by Ilya. in 2004, I got some mail exchange with Oleg about available data to build a Battle of Britain map.... and "Storm of War: Battle of Britain" was officially anounced in 2006, and CloD released in 2011. So yes, it can be said CloD was developed for more or less 8 years (but in "part time" the first 2 years)
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#4132932 - 06/12/15 11:55 AM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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CloD was developed for 8 years? First time I've heard about "Storm of War" new engine development was in 2003, at the same time PF was developped by Ilya. in 2004, I got some mail exchange with Oleg about available data to build a Battle of Britain map.... and "Storm of War: Battle of Britain" was officially anounced in 2006, and CloD released in 2011. So yes, it can be said CloD was developed for more or less 8 years (but in "part time" the first 2 years) The original scheduled release for Storm of War:Battle of Britain was 2006 so it had to have been in development before that. Gamer's Hell Game Facts
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#4132966 - 06/12/15 01:03 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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The Il-2 46 DVD had a feature on it talking about SoW: BoB, with in-game footage (which looked better than CloD did somehow...), and that was released in 2006.
I don't recall when I first started hearing about it, probably around the same time as Fighter Ops. Oh, did I actually use that name?? FO is the biggest joke in flight sims, hands down. Over a decade with nothing but a smattering of 3D models to show for it.
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#4133009 - 06/12/15 01:46 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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And yet you guys are all harsh on the company that actually delivers a working product on time.
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#4133029 - 06/12/15 02:18 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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And yet you guys are all harsh on the company that actually delivers a working product on time. An un air conditioned, rusty, paint faded, Ford Pinto works too. Does not make it fun to drive. And Ford selling it for the price of a Mustang doesn't mean that's it value. And Ford telling you to like it as is, does not make good marketing. Ford saying the customer is at fault for it not selling well and NOT the fact its a pos does not make it true. But keep preaching.
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#4133041 - 06/12/15 02:31 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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And yet you guys are all harsh on the company that actually delivers a working product on time. An un air conditioned, rusty, paint faded, Ford Pinto works too. Does not make it fun to drive. And Ford selling it for the price of a Mustang doesn't mean that's it value. And Ford telling you to like it as is, does not make good marketing. Ford saying the customer is at fault for it not selling well and NOT the fact its a pos does not make it true. But keep preaching. So you guys would rather be strung along for nearly a decade waiting and hoping for the "perfect" sim instead of having a good one delivered now? Besides I'm sure you guys directed plenty of hate mail at Maddox too. There's really no way to win with you people and they know that. A big part of the reason BoS was able to launch successfully is the developer maintained the scope of the project and didn't acquiesce to every little demand made on them by a small fraction of the players.
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#4133052 - 06/12/15 02:50 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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What's also funny about this topic. That forum activity is somehow relevant and represents the majority of the players views. Especially on this site. All you have to do is scroll down all the topics and see that they're started by the same dozen or so people. Especially the negative ones. It's the opinions of a dozen people vs the tens of thousands that own the game. Rather hilarious.
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#4133071 - 06/12/15 03:16 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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It's the opinions of a dozen people vs the tens of thousands that own the game. Rather hilarious. Negative. Some like myself do not care enough to post anything about this BOS-thingy
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#4133075 - 06/12/15 03:19 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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Who is YouGuys? Never saw him around...
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#4133086 - 06/12/15 03:26 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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It's the opinions of a dozen people vs the tens of thousands that own the game. Rather hilarious. Negative. Some like myself do not care enough to post anything about this BOS-thingy You just did.
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#4133113 - 06/12/15 04:18 PM
Re: Offical BoS forum
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Some new screenshots of the "thingy". Sorry if this isn't good enough for some of you... Nobody said she isn't pretty! But a bit like the pretty blonde, after spending fifteen minutes with her you begin to wonder if there isn't something a bit more interesting to do.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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