#4130870 - 06/08/15 03:34 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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#4130875 - 06/08/15 03:39 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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CFS3 is dead!?
Damn don't tell the CFS3 community will you?
There wasn't a CFS4...that was the point.
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#4130877 - 06/08/15 03:43 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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When Janes/EA called it quits the market went pooof.
I saw it coming with the closing of janescombat.net
Which jad 1000+ users on it during down time, and significantly more than that during peak.
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#4130892 - 06/08/15 04:37 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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When Janes/EA called it quits the market went pooof.
Makes sense. They were the last US-based combat flight sim developer.
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#4130903 - 06/08/15 05:07 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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I still miss Jane's USAF like you wouldn't believe.
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#4130923 - 06/08/15 05:58 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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IAF, F-15, F-18, and of course Fighters Athology...
Janes F-18, source code was leaked a while back, many were expecting it to become the next Falcon4 in terms of re compiled versions..
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#4130927 - 06/08/15 06:14 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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GOG is pretty much the last hope for any of those gems, and I doubt it'll happen.
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#4130956 - 06/08/15 07:31 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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I still miss Jane's USAF like you wouldn't believe. That wasn't even really them as far as I was concerned. It was a US publisher but the developer wasn't in the US anymore. Of course, Strike Fighters has that feel to it, which is why I like it, and it's so easily modded. The Jedi Master
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#4131059 - 06/08/15 11:48 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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CFS3 is dead!?
Damn don't tell the CFS3 community will you?
There wasn't a CFS4...that was the point. there wasnt a Janes ww2fighters 2, or EAW 2 or etc etc that's totally irrelevant if there was not a 2,3 or 4 of the series. Flight sims have never worked like this.
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#4131131 - 06/09/15 04:42 AM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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CFS3 is dead!?
Damn don't tell the CFS3 community will you?
There wasn't a CFS4...that was the point. there wasnt a Janes ww2fighters 2, or EAW 2 or etc etc that's totally irrelevant if there was not a 2,3 or 4 of the series. Flight sims have never worked like this. lol...yes...I know how flight sims work. You are missing my point and taking offense for some reason. I still fly EAW, Falcon, Red Baron 3D, Mig Alley, and CFS2. I know they are not dead so to speak...some still have active modding communities...the studios that created them are dead is the point. I would disagree somewhat on your point that they never worked like this...especially with the example I was making about Microsoft's series. They seemed to embrace the numbering method. Flight Simulator 1.0 Flight Simulator 2.0 Flight Simulator 3.0 Flight Simulator 4.0 Flight Simulator 5.0 Flight Simulator 5.1 Flight Simulator 95 Flight Simulator 98 Flight Simulator 2000 Flight Simulator 2002 Flight Simulator 2004: A Century of Flight Flight Simulator X Combat Flight Simulator Combat Flight Simulator 2 Combat Flight Simulator 3 _______________________ 4? Many others as well were fond of numbering F/A-18 Hornet F/A-18 Hornet 2.0 F/A-18 Hornet 3.0 X-Plane 5 X-Plane 6 X-Plane 7 X-Plane 8 X-Plane 9 X-Plane 10 Flanker Flanker 2.0 Flanker 2.5 Falcon Falcon 3.0 Falcon 4.0 Judging by how Microsoft just adds a number or a year at the end...it's a safe bet that the next CFS title would have been CFS4. My point was if a good portion of the community didn't jump ship and switch to IL-2...there might have been a 4th.
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#4131226 - 06/09/15 11:15 AM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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Maybe... I always thought that too.. that IL2 put quite a few nails in the coffin of CFS.. All this begs the question though.. where are simmer flying because on any given night if you look at DCS, CoD, BoS and IL2 combined they do not come close to the numbers we used to see in the heyday of IL2.. Perhaps a lot have just moved on..
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#4131239 - 06/09/15 11:39 AM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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I think you guys are still using on line only as a representation of the whole industry, which will always give you a conclusion that is well off base.
That's a valid point since a lot of flight simmers only play offline but it's also a fact that the online numbers for for both CLoD and BoS are tiny compared to IL-2.
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#4131241 - 06/09/15 11:46 AM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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That's a valid point since a lot of flight simmers only play offline but it's also a fact that the online numbers for for both CLoD and BoS are tiny compared to IL-2. I do think thats easy to explain, the classic il-2 we all played was a multiplayer sim (with each new update focusing more on the none single player aspects) where as the others you have mentioned tend to have more focus on the single player experience?
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#4131245 - 06/09/15 11:50 AM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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I think you guys are still using on line only as a representation of the whole industry, which will always give you a conclusion that is well off base.
That's a valid point since a lot of flight simmers only play offline but it's also a fact that the online numbers for for both CLoD and BoS are tiny compared to IL-2. I do think thats easy to explain, the classic il-2 we all played was a multiplayer sim (with each new update focusing more on the none single player aspects) where as the others you have mentioned tend to have more focus on the single player experience? Very valid points on both counts.. but I was speaking specifically in terms of online anyway as there really is no way to accurately count the offline numbers.
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#4131274 - 06/09/15 12:45 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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That's a valid point since a lot of flight simmers only play offline but it's also a fact that the online numbers for for both CLoD and BoS are tiny compared to IL-2. I do think thats easy to explain, the classic il-2 we all played was a multiplayer sim (with each new update focusing more on the none single player aspects) where as the others you have mentioned tend to have more focus on the single player experience? If a sim included both SP and MP aspects, how can you define one as primarily SP and another as primarily MP? Just because you flew it one way doesn't mean another person didn't do it differently. Personally, back in the 90s I played almost 100% of my sims as SP because of connection stability over dial up and costs and lack of people to fly with (I despise public servers for any game). Come the 21st century, I began playing my flight sims primarily coop MP because I had a group to fly with, broadband made it free and reliable, and since I was spending the time in MP I didn't bother to also play them in SP, I reserved that time for other games that were SP-only. Nowadays, most of my sims are either 100% MP or 100% SP, as the ones without MP like Strike Fighters (or the ones I don't fly online like BoS and CloD) get my SP time, and the ones I can fly MP like ROF, DCS, and Il-2 I only play MP. Yet I'd say in the first few years I flew Il-2 50/50, but I did spend more SP time on CFS3 than MP, so more or less as time passed CFS3 became my offline WWII sim and Il-2 my MP one. The Jedi Master
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#4131307 - 06/09/15 01:48 PM
Re: Too much negativity recently on simhq?
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CFS3 is dead!?
Damn don't tell the CFS3 community will you?
There wasn't a CFS4...that was the point. there wasnt a Janes ww2fighters 2, or EAW 2 or etc etc that's totally irrelevant if there was not a 2,3 or 4 of the series. Flight sims have never worked like this. lol...yes...I know how flight sims work. You are missing my point and taking offense for some reason. I still fly EAW, Falcon, Red Baron 3D, Mig Alley, and CFS2. I know they are not dead so to speak...some still have active modding communities...the studios that created them are dead is the point. I would disagree somewhat on your point that they never worked like this...especially with the example I was making about Microsoft's series. They seemed to embrace the numbering method. Flight Simulator 1.0 Flight Simulator 2.0 Flight Simulator 3.0 Flight Simulator 4.0 Flight Simulator 5.0 Flight Simulator 5.1 Flight Simulator 95 Flight Simulator 98 Flight Simulator 2000 Flight Simulator 2002 Flight Simulator 2004: A Century of Flight Flight Simulator X Combat Flight Simulator Combat Flight Simulator 2 Combat Flight Simulator 3 _______________________ 4? Many others as well were fond of numbering F/A-18 Hornet F/A-18 Hornet 2.0 F/A-18 Hornet 3.0 X-Plane 5 X-Plane 6 X-Plane 7 X-Plane 8 X-Plane 9 X-Plane 10 Flanker Flanker 2.0 Flanker 2.5 Falcon Falcon 3.0 Falcon 4.0 Judging by how Microsoft just adds a number or a year at the end...it's a safe bet that the next CFS title would have been CFS4. My point was if a good portion of the community didn't jump ship and switch to IL-2...there might have been a 4th. Unless they planned on using the aborted MS Flight Engine, then it woukd be MS Combat. Bahaha I crack myself up.
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