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#4127861 - 06/02/15 01:20 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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#4127887 - 06/02/15 02:04 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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I have Windows 10 Pro Preview on a 256GB SSD (which Windows reports as 236GB of course). With nothing else installed I have 130GB free, so that tells you how much space is used between files and swap files and such. Laptop has 8GB for reference.
Oh, wait. I just double-checked and as I've updated the builds a few times, there are two directories taking 14.1 and 10.8GB, respectively, for the Recovery Image and the previous Windows (now .old) folder. I'm sure I could delete those if needed. So instead of 130GB free I could have 155GB or so free.

So let's say roughly 100GB for Win 10 with nothing extra installed. YMMV, especially once the final Home build is released.




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#4128012 - 06/02/15 05:24 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Revvin]  
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Originally Posted By: Revvin
Originally Posted By: Moses
and the latest release TrackIR 5 and CH Products programs no longer work


Moses are you using Windows 10 preview? If there is an issue I'll chase it up with CH as obviously this will be a problem with the free upgrade being offered many users will jump before checking to see if it works.


Rev it worked before the latest update, hadnt had any issues at all until the one from Sunday.


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#4128055 - 06/02/15 06:58 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Can we reinstall the free upgrade of Win 10 at a later date after the 1 year has lapsed?

Still can't figure out if they changed the things I hated about Windows 8. Two new concerns would be if we can have text opposed to icons in the task bar and if we can remove the search line in the task bar. I prefer hitting Win and then typing for search. Saves space down there.

But my main concerns are:

- Can we use drop down menus or are we stuck with ribbon?

- Can we edit files in Program Files?

- Slim down the start menu?

- Use Windows without tying it to an online Microsoft account?


Still very murky. But if they don't change any of my main concerns, it is essentially just Win 8 with an uglier Classic Shell pre-installed as far as I am concerned.

#4128078 - 06/02/15 07:34 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
I have Windows 10 Pro Preview on a 256GB SSD (which Windows reports as 236GB of course). With nothing else installed I have 130GB free, so that tells you how much space is used between files and swap files and such. Laptop has 8GB for reference.
Oh, wait. I just double-checked and as I've updated the builds a few times, there are two directories taking 14.1 and 10.8GB, respectively, for the Recovery Image and the previous Windows (now .old) folder. I'm sure I could delete those if needed. So instead of 130GB free I could have 155GB or so free.

So let's say roughly 100GB for Win 10 with nothing extra installed. YMMV, especially once the final Home build is released.




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Something's amiss there JM - I have Win10 installed taking Just 14GB of a 60gb disk.

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#4128085 - 06/02/15 07:40 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Just toggling off the Win10 notification icon isn't enough, it keeps turning itself back on.

Yeah, I'm done with Windows treating me like an idiot, I'll stick with Windows 2000/XP for production and for everything else I'm going to try a different route...


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#4128221 - 06/03/15 12:10 AM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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If you have Win8 or 8.1 I don't see the hesitation since Win10 looks the same.

Damn sure am not installing this on my Win7 computer though.

#4128326 - 06/03/15 06:01 AM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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Just reserved mine for my 8.1 laptop.

Probably hold off on my 7 PC gaming rig until I see how it works.


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#4128387 - 06/03/15 11:32 AM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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Originally Posted By: Stormtrooper
If you have Win8 or 8.1 I don't see the hesitation since Win10 looks the same.

Different video and audio drivers and some older PC games may not like Win 10. Either way, I'll wait for a while first and see what the reviews are like.


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#4128445 - 06/03/15 01:19 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Nate]  
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Originally Posted By: Nate


Something's amiss there JM - I have Win10 installed taking Just 14GB of a 60gb disk.

Nate



Now you've got me curious. I'll do a folder check.

Ah...a slight overlook. I had two Acronis backups in the Temp folder over 34GB. biggrin

So not counting that folder, the Windows.old and Recovery Image folders, it takes 18.3GB.

Well, 18, 100, same thing...



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#4128560 - 06/03/15 03:50 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Moses]  
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Originally Posted By: Moses
Originally Posted By: Revvin
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and the latest release TrackIR 5 and CH Products programs no longer work


Moses are you using Windows 10 preview? If there is an issue I'll chase it up with CH as obviously this will be a problem with the free upgrade being offered many users will jump before checking to see if it works.


Rev it worked before the latest update, hadnt had any issues at all until the one from Sunday.


Thanks for getting back to me, I've passed this information on to CH to follow up and check for compatibility, sadly though as we've seen from previous iterations of Windows you can test, test, test and test again and then they release the final version and everything flies out the window (no pun intended) like Vista where a number of manufacturers were caught on the hop.

#4128622 - 06/03/15 05:49 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Moses
I liked it alot no real issues until this one popped up but if you dont like change then yeah stick with what you have.


It's not so much about not liking change but if I'm not going to get any increased benefit with my pc games then I'm not going to go through the hassle of upgrading my OS.


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#4128623 - 06/03/15 05:51 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Weasel_Keeper]  
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Originally Posted By: Weasel_Keeper
Just reserved mine for my 8.1 laptop.

Probably hold off on my 7 PC gaming rig until I see how it works.


Its weird, all my OEM laptops got the popups in the tray,
my gaming rigs and studio.rig, nada.

I plan to just update my TP to Relesse build. Since it resides on its own drive.


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#4128627 - 06/03/15 06:03 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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I got the popup on a retail version of Win 7 and it does say that you can download the upgrade when it becomes available, and then install it at your convenience, so you could download it just to have and then take all the time you need to decide, I think.

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#4128631 - 06/03/15 06:08 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Stormtrooper
If you have Win8 or 8.1 I don't see the hesitation since Win10 looks the same.

Different video and audio drivers and some older PC games may not like Win 10. Either way, I'll wait for a while first and see what the reviews are like.

I bought a Windows 8.1 gaming rig recently, and everything worked well except for the Cougar MFDs, and they didn't like the new USB power management, so I had to go into the registry and turn that off.

Because of potential driver and hardware issues like that, I'm not going to rush to upgrade the OS on that system. I'll try it on a couple of Windows 8.1 tablets, and maybe an 8.1 laptop. Not sure if I'll do it with any of my Windows 7 PCs, since they're all older and would probably be replaced before the end of Win7 support anyway.

I saw this article and thought some here might find it helpful:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers/


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#4128638 - 06/03/15 06:19 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Like i have said before it works really well just like all the other versions they fix the CH and track ir issues and ill put it back on my machine


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#4128735 - 06/03/15 09:05 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
Originally Posted By: Weasel_Keeper
Just reserved mine for my 8.1 laptop.

Probably hold off on my 7 PC gaming rig until I see how it works.


Its weird, all my OEM laptops got the popups in the tray,
my gaming rigs and studio.rig, nada.

I plan to just update my TP to Relesse build. Since it resides on its own drive.


Same here with the pop up. Got it on my laptop with 8.1 but nothing on my PC with 7.


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#4128757 - 06/03/15 10:11 PM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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You can do a clean install after upgrading:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9334/micro...after-upgrading

#4128906 - 06/04/15 07:44 AM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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I have the prompt on my win 7 machine, but I am concerned for peripheral compatibility at this point and also would like some feedback over performance, reliability, usability and integration.

When some good reviews come out for it, I may push the button..... not like I will have a choice in the future.


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#4128939 - 06/04/15 10:38 AM Re: Microsoft announces Windows 10 release date: July 29th [Re: Weasel_Keeper]  
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Originally Posted By: Weasel_Keeper
Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
Originally Posted By: Weasel_Keeper
Just reserved mine for my 8.1 laptop.

Probably hold off on my 7 PC gaming rig until I see how it works.


Its weird, all my OEM laptops got the popups in the tray,
my gaming rigs and studio.rig, nada.

I plan to just update my TP to Relesse build. Since it resides on its own drive.


Same here with the pop up. Got it on my laptop with 8.1 but nothing on my PC with 7.


I always screen my W7 updates, to make sure they won't slide
something 8-ish at me that will break the things that W7 runs
and 8 doesn't. I didn't like the sound of kb3035583, so I didn't
let it load. Thus, I am free of the popups. In fact, the last
time it reappeared, begging like a puppy to be let in, I did a
net search and found lots of other folx were as suspicious, and
some had drifted through the binary for plaintext hints of its
intent, and had found the "upgrade to win10" strings, so I already
knew what it was about. This was at the beginning of May.

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