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#4117987 - 05/08/15 07:14 PM A natural born killer : Roberto Succo  
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This weirdo left a trail of blood behind him in Italy, France and Switzerland, in the late '80s. Better not have crossed his path .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Succo





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#4117990 - 05/08/15 07:17 PM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: kaa]  
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I've never liked the term "natural born killer" because it presumes a person that has a genetic disposition to kill from birth. If that is indeed true then how could the person still be held accountable for their crimes?

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#4117993 - 05/08/15 07:25 PM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: kaa]  
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We are all natural born killers. We are after all hairless apes with delusions of grandeur. Man is a predator by nature. Civilization is a very thin veneer.

#4118010 - 05/08/15 07:46 PM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I've never liked the term "natural born killer" because it presumes a person that has a genetic disposition to kill from birth. If that is indeed true then how could the person still be held accountable for their crimes?

I never looked at that term as an analysis of their genetic predisposition, more just a phrase about how easily and completely they took to killing.

But your question brings up all kinds of moral nuances that probably would best be discussed somewhere other than CH.


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#4118024 - 05/08/15 08:23 PM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I've never liked the term "natural born killer" because it presumes a person that has a genetic disposition to kill from birth. If that is indeed true then how could the person still be held accountable for their crimes?


You're right IMO , I should have written: a man with no value of human life. Now, your philosophical question is also relevant with criminals who are determinated by the kind of life they had.


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#4118421 - 05/09/15 10:31 PM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: kaa]  
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#4118476 - 05/10/15 01:43 AM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: kaa]  
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Originally Posted By: kaa
...your philosophical question is also relevant with criminals who are determinated by the kind of life they had.


I have a tough time with that excuse, too. My father's childhood reads like the bio of hundreds of people who ended up in prison or at the end of a rope. And yet he never committed any crimes, raised four children of whom I'm probably the worst, and the line of people who came to pay their respects when he passed away stretched around the block. The funeral director had to open three guest registers and said he'd never seen anything like it for anyone short of a town mayor or other big-wig, which my dad most certainly was not. He was just an honest man who treated everyone he ever met (as far as I know) with the respect he'd want to receive from them. What influenced him wasn't what happened to him, rather the understanding that if he didn't like that he had no business visiting that kind of treatment on anyone else.

A person does not become a criminal based on the kind of life he has had, but the kind of life he chooses to lead. He becomes a whiny pos by trying to pass responsibility for his miscreance off to other people who may or may not have done wrong by him.


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#4118938 - 05/11/15 02:15 PM Re: A natural born killer : Roberto Succo [Re: kaa]  
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On the flip side, you will find many famous successful people with a line of carnage behind them from people whose lives they've ruined to get themselves ahead, and they may be publicly lauded while privately despised by hundreds of people. You may also find that any bad choices they make they've managed to blame others for instead of accepting personal responsibility.

So those traits are universal, not confined to winners or losers. Some choose to work with it, some against it, some not at all, but you have to take things like circumstances of birth and childhood and education and luck with a grain of salt because anyone born anywhere can choose to become anything.




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