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#4115013 - 05/02/15 11:13 PM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: JohnnyChemo]  
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Flight of the Intruder - well, I liked it anyway



Ah,the phantom sh1tter! An enjoyable movie. I read the book first,in fact it may have come with the PC game if I'm not mistaken (probably am).


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#4115014 - 05/02/15 11:24 PM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115028 - 05/03/15 12:10 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115039 - 05/03/15 12:48 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115046 - 05/03/15 01:05 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115051 - 05/03/15 01:25 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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You either love it or despise it - but my favorite has got to be The Thin Red Line.


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#4115054 - 05/03/15 01:53 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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1) Saving Private Ryan
2) Glory
3) Apocalypse Now

Honorable mention Tora, Tora, Tora. Though not as compelling, I feel the producers tried their best at the time to keep it real. I think it captured the hopelessness of trying to impress a dire situation upon an out to lunch military bureaucracy.


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#4115057 - 05/03/15 01:56 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: ]  
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Must be a movie? Band of Brothers is my favourite, but that's a TV series...


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#4115076 - 05/03/15 02:37 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115083 - 05/03/15 03:10 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115088 - 05/03/15 03:19 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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#4115091 - 05/03/15 03:24 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: mynameismatt]  
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Originally Posted By: mynameismatt
You either love it or despise it - but my favorite has got to be The Thin Red Line.
Looking back, I think what gave that film such a negative reaction at first is the fact that it came out soon after Saving Private Ryan. I think the public was expecting to see the same style of action oriented war movie but set in the Pacific.

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#4115098 - 05/03/15 03:39 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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I reacted vary poorly to the flashback love crap in the mist of combat. It does not happen. I saw that movie with my Mother who is Nam vet. she could not contain herself during that movie. Never saw that before from her. But that is my memory of that film... strange weird cuts at vary odd times with my Mother throwing in comments based on the scenes. LOL.

#4115102 - 05/03/15 03:53 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Some fav's that come to mind...

Band of Brothers (yeah I know its a mini-series)
Black Hawk Down
Fury
Letters from Iwo Jima
Battle of Britain
Saving Private Ryan
The Pacific (another mini-series)
We Were Soldiers
My Way
Tae Guk Gi (Korean made film about the Korean War)
Memphis Belle
Special Forces (french movie that came out a few years ago about Afghanistan done really well IMHO)
Age of Heroes
9th Company

Out of the above list, I would put the Band of Brothers mini-series the best with Black Hawk Down being a close second but all are definitely enjoyable and have gotten multiple re-watches

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#4115104 - 05/03/15 04:02 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Tae Guk Gi ...... That was the name of that flick I want to see but missed out on during a film festival. Thank you for that!.. Can now go find it and watch that bugger.

#4115129 - 05/03/15 08:06 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: reconmercs]  
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Two films I inexplicably forgot yesterday:

Downfall

and a little bit left field: Slaughterhouse 5.


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#4115130 - 05/03/15 08:10 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Many of the above but may I add:
'Letters from Iwo Jima'
'Empire of the Sun'
'Cross of Iron'
'Longest Day'
'All Quiet on the Western Front' (Original 1930)
'Hell's Angels'
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#4115161 - 05/03/15 10:06 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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IMO most war movies aren't very good. Rarely you get the context of the significance of a certain battle. Too often they limit themselves to "the personal experience" of combat which would certainly justify the one or other film, but not the plethora of them all.


Full Metal Jacket is an excellent US style boot camp movie (the first half), but the combat of the second half of the film is rather mediocre.


We Were Soldiers Once is probably the best of all Vietnam war movies since it delivers context, it accurately depicts tactics (and the development of the airmobile doctrine), a glimpse into the Viet Cong's perspective (as short and limited as it may be), and a glimpse into the (false) conclusions that the Pentagon drew from the outcome. To that extent I have to agree, it's probably THE best overall war movie.

After reading "Chesty", LtGen Lewis Puller's biography, and re-watching "The Pacific" (TV series), my appreciation of the series increased immensely. It's one of those cases where, with sufficient contextual knowledge, the various scenes all of a sudden gain A LOT in significance. In fact, from a strictly historical perspective I would rate "The Pacific" much, much higher than "Band of Brothers". That's not to say that BoB is worthless. It's much easier to relate to the characters of BoB, so it's probably an overall more enjoyable "viewing experience".

Honorable mentions go to
  • "Blackhawk Down" for modern/asymmetrical war,
  • "Waterloo" (1970) for Napoleonic age,
  • "Zulu" for late 19th century/colonial war,
  • "Das Boot" (TV series) for the German submarine experience (although many veterans contest the picture of life on board as it was drawn by Lothar Gnther Buchheim),
  • "Die Brcke" for the depiction of child soldiers in WW2,
  • "Talvisota" for the Finnish Winter War,
  • "Letters from Iwo Jima" as a rather unique perspective from the Japanese side


"Downfall" is a good drama set in a WW2 historical context, but I'd hardly rate it as a war movie.
"Apocalypse Now" is the "Heart of Darkness" novella, transported from the equally gruesome Belgian Congo colonial setting to the Mekong delta of the Vietnam war, but IMO not really a war movie either. It's about traveling up a river to discover a terrible cult, hardly a serious film about the combat there.
"Hamburger Hill", I still don't know if I would call it great or "just OK". It's not a bad one, but had they delivered more of the context of Westmoreland's misguided strategy to just up the body count to bleed the VC white rather than capturing and holding terrain I'd probably rate it much, much higher.
"Fury" was good up to the point where they start to rush the lone Tiger. From that point it was like taken directly out of World of Tanks. The end, maybe they wanted to add an episode in honor of Audie Murphy but it made no sense whatsoever. A pity. They got a lot right with this one, and I really want to love tank movies. But most of them aren't worth much.

#4115182 - 05/03/15 11:54 AM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Excellent post Ssnake and I fully agree with you that both "Downfall" and "Apocalypse Now" are not really "war films" as their dramatic focus of both films is not about a specific battle or campaign.

As for "Waterloo", IMHO it's worth watching just to see Rod Steiger's performance. Truly one for the ages.

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#4115196 - 05/03/15 12:43 PM Re: The best war movie, ever? [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Difficult choice but All Quiet On the Western Front has my vote .

The best French war movie is IMHO The 317 th Platoon. Too bad you cannot watch it easily because it's really really that good.


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