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#4104844 - 04/11/15 05:58 PM Jager-stick  
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#4105557 - 04/13/15 02:36 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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Seriously? Another Krout stick?

That's what, the third option available now?

Why is this type so popular all the sudden?


Tough to support a KS campaign for a flooded niche market.

Not trying to be pesamistic, but there's plenty of other awesome sticks out there that no one seems to care about:









And don't get me started on the lack of throttles available. That's a wiiiiiiide open canvas!

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#4105690 - 04/13/15 07:09 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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+1 to more Western aircraft throttles and sticks.


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#4105741 - 04/13/15 08:33 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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I love the kraut looks of the stick Sokol.Some ideas I have on joysticks that you may find useful.I find joysticks nowadays are made too big for desktop use.They try to replicate the real stick dimensions and it doesn't work well for a home PC.The perfect feeling stick for me was one of the first joysticks ever produced and that is the Thrustmaster Top Gun.


The reason I feel this way may be hard to explain but I will try.When you are using a desktop model the stick pivots too much forcing your wrist to bend and puts the hand in a bad position.When you are in a real plane and you pull back on the stick the stick doesn't tilt but moves backwards as the pivot point is much further away.You can then easily lift your hand to hit the top buttons because your wrist stays straight while you pull back with the elbow.A smaller stick with buttons closer together doesn't put your wrist at such an unnatural position as a life size stick so that is why I feel that for desktop models a small stick is best.

One other thing I feel is very important is the spring type used.I will use my two joysticks as an example.My Saitek X55 feels horrible as that stick has a mechanism where once the spring compresses any movement in any other direction has no resistance whatsoever because the spring is compressed already.My T.16000m on the other hand feels great because when I pull back on the stick and then push left or right the mechanism has to still deflect the spring in that direction.Its so good that I am planning on attaching my Saitek stick to my T.16000m base.

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#4105745 - 04/13/15 08:36 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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Heck,if you could make stick only models that easily attach to the T.16000m base it would be a perfect stick. biggrin

#4105798 - 04/13/15 10:47 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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For you guys dreaming with another F-something stick maybe this guy provide the solution (someday...).

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104154

BTW - I ask for him for one... KG 13-B grip. smile


#4105868 - 04/14/15 01:44 AM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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In a perfect world, someone would replicate the Suncom throttle and stick, updated for the USB age.



"Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value."
- Ferdinand Foch, Supreme Commander of Allied Forces, WWI
#4106112 - 04/14/15 03:19 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: RhinoX55]  
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Originally Posted By: RhinoX55
In a perfect world, someone would replicate the Suncom throttle and stick, updated for the USB age.




I did. wink


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#4106324 - 04/14/15 11:23 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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Guess I should have added, "...for retail sale."


"Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value."
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#4109969 - 04/22/15 09:45 AM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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about Suncom SFS and Talon Stick, there is already a commercial solution from RealSimulator (Spain, but they sell worldwide and have really good customer support) : http://realsimulator.com/html/fusba.html

About the Kickstarter campaign, thanks, Falcon Sokol, to share this...
You are a gold mine for info about joysticks and flight sim gears yep
I owe you to be a recent and happy customer from baur and his KG13 grip + BRD-DS box.

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#4110344 - 04/22/15 08:46 PM Re: Jager-stick [Re: Sokol1]  
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Yeah, Sokol is incredibly resourceful about flight sim controllers.
But this project looks pretty much dead. The guy`s last post on facebook is half year old, and the KS campaign has never happened. It is a pitty because the quality of the grip looks superb.


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