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#4100840 - 04/02/15 06:12 PM New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane  
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Pilots who climb into the cockpit of the F-35 stealth fighter to fly the costliest military plane ever built, will be wearing a helmet straight out of a science fiction movie.

These pilots, flying at Mach-1 at 50,000 feet, will have the ability to essentially look through the floor of the plane and see the ground, The Washington Post reported in its series on military advancements called The Arsenal.



Besides landing, what would be the benefit of looking through the plane? Isn't the radar giving him a better visual of what his eyes can see at FL50K


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#4100857 - 04/02/15 06:46 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Top Gun]  
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SA during dogfights and whatnot?


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#4100864 - 04/02/15 06:56 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Top Gun]  
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#4100865 - 04/02/15 06:58 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
SA during dogfights and whatnot?



lol

Dogfights are soooo WWII.


It's all BVR now baby.


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#4100871 - 04/02/15 07:05 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
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SA during dogfights and whatnot?



lol

Dogfights are soooo WWII.


It's all BVR now baby.


exactly, if the F-22 and F-35 has to dogfight, then they already lost...


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#4100875 - 04/02/15 07:15 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
SA during dogfights and whatnot?


Also in striking surface targets, for one it should be a lot easier to locate and distinguish things like antiaircraft threats and friendlies if you have a nearly unlimited field of view that's overladen with symbology.

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Originally Posted By: Crane Hunter
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SA during dogfights and whatnot?


Also in striking surface targets, for one it should be a lot easier to locate and distinguish things like antiaircraft threats and friendlies if you have a nearly unlimited field of view that's overladen with symbology.

Right - remember it's not just looking, it's augmented. It is night-vision so you can see what's going on in the dark, everywhere you look, and still have all kinds of other info displayed, like where the good guys are, what target is being designated or where it is by GPS location, it can highlight incoming missiles (detected by their plume and heat, so even IR missiles show up) for better evasion, etc.


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#4100883 - 04/02/15 07:38 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Top Gun]  
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We can now look through our aircraft, target stuff from half a world away and yet we still can't seem to find a solution for world hunger...

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#4100884 - 04/02/15 07:39 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Originally Posted By: Crane Hunter
Originally Posted By: - Ice
SA during dogfights and whatnot?


Also in striking surface targets, for one it should be a lot easier to locate and distinguish things like antiaircraft threats and friendlies if you have a nearly unlimited field of view that's overladen with symbology.


Exactly! Imagine an another (and simpler) situation where the pilot acquires/locks a ground target with the air-to-ground radar or FLIR or any other sensor and while flying overhead the acquired target:
In any other aircraft (that isn't the F-35) the pilot cannot see the exact location of the target or directly see the target itself (unless looking at an MFD) because the target is either outside the HUD's field of view and/or the aircraft's fuselage is blocking the view towards the target. But with the F-35 guess what? This won't happen!

Besides and speaking of flight sims, while playing flight sims I believe many of us already used in the past or still use a view which removes the cockpit (from the view) and with this we can get a clear and unobstructed view which in some (or even many) cases can become quite handy. Until now such view could be considered some sort of a "cheat", specially among the most "purist"/"hardcore" flight simmers but now with the F-35 guess what? Such view will be quite realistic after all!

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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
Until now such view could be considered some sort of a "cheat", specially among the most "purist"/"hardcore" flight simmers but now with the F-35 guess what? Such view will be quite realistic after all!
Assuming you're flying an F-35 in a flight sim which as of right now doesn't exist.


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#4100937 - 04/02/15 08:56 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Top Gun]  
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What happens if the pilot needs to flick a switch in the cockpit? Is there a "see-through mode" on and off switch? smile


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#4100944 - 04/02/15 09:03 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Top Gun]  
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It is pretty much an advanced version of the IDHASS technology from the AH-64 where pilots can see SAM launches below by their smoke or dust trails.

#4100950 - 04/02/15 09:10 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Assuming you're flying an F-35 in a flight sim which as of right now doesn't exist.


Well, the F-35 DOES exist. (And will enter in service this year with the Marines)
What still doesn't exist is a realistic F-35 combat flight sim for PC. (Maybe someday, soon I hope)

#4100958 - 04/02/15 09:24 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
What happens if the pilot needs to flick a switch in the cockpit? Is there a "see-through mode" on and off switch? smile


The all-around 360 degree view is projected into the helmet only and if the pilot desires it.

Also, from what I read the F-35 can be operated without any need of flipping switches in the cockpit (at least while in the "air"). This is possible because the helmet can relay all sorts of important information to the pilot and many of the F-35 avionics/instrument can be operated/activated by the pilot's voice commands.

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They call in an airstrike, and after being offered an F-35, they re-request an A-10 to do the job right.... biggrin


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#4100989 - 04/02/15 10:35 PM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: Top Gun]  
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No, they won't. Not only they won't, the F-35 can find targets the A-10 can't. Automatically.

Different aircraft, different purposes and capabilities. There are things that an F-35 can't do that an A-10 can, and vice versa, including CAS AND air escort duties.


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Bit old but gives you a good idea. Things have moved on a bit now.


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#4101086 - 04/03/15 04:14 AM Re: New F-35 helmet allows pilot to look through the plane [Re: ArgonV]  
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Originally Posted By: ArgonV
We can now look through our aircraft, target stuff from half a world away and yet we still can't seem to find a solution for world hunger...

wink


we had solution for world hunger since the 60s.....it is just no profitable..why do you think dimond mining operations occur in countries occupyed by guerrilas ? becouose it makes find them scarce and therefor raise the value of each piece.

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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Assuming you're flying an F-35 in a flight sim which as of right now doesn't exist.


Well, the F-35 DOES exist. (And will enter in service this year with the Marines)
What still doesn't exist is a realistic F-35 combat flight sim for PC. (Maybe someday, soon I hope)


I was referring to the latter.


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