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#4094956 - 03/21/15 07:50 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4094982 - 03/21/15 09:08 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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It's a superb looking model but I very much doubt the one which ends up in DCS will be anywhere near as detailed.

#4095046 - 03/22/15 01:33 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Brun]  
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Originally Posted By: Brun
It's a superb looking model but I very much doubt the one which ends up in DCS will be anywhere near as detailed.


You say that but, remember this is the team whose Mig-21 model was so detailed it caused performance issues. I have no doubt when it is released to us it will be one of the best looking models in DCS.

#4095051 - 03/22/15 01:49 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Tyco]  
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Originally Posted By: Tyco
Originally Posted By: Brun
It's a superb looking model but I very much doubt the one which ends up in DCS will be anywhere near as detailed.


You say that but, remember this is the team whose Mig-21 model was so detailed it caused performance issues. I have no doubt when it is released to us it will be one of the best looking models in DCS.


That is in part to the DCS engine being horribly outdated. If I place 10 F-15/Su-27s on a runway my frame rates drop to the 30s. It simply chokes on itself. That being said the MIG-21 looks good, but not as good (texture wise) as some of the FSX planes I see. ED's planes use 2K textures; I think the MIG-21 does to. Some FSX addons use 4K textures.

Also keep in mind that in game development there are often two 3D models made. Only one (the low quality) will appear in game.

All that being said, I do think the F-14 will push DCS module standards to the next level. Especially since they are likely targetting DCS World 2 and don't have to optimize for the antiquated engine we currently use.

#4095105 - 03/22/15 09:21 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Flogger23m]  
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Originally Posted By: Flogger23m


All that being said, I do think the F-14 will push DCS module standards to the next level. Especially since they are likely targetting DCS World 2 and don't have to optimize for the antiquated engine we currently use.


+1


Now, let's hope that ED will be able to deliver EDGE before early 2016.

#4095177 - 03/22/15 01:29 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: heat2151]  
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Originally Posted By: heat2151
Hello All,

From their Facebook pages. Man, I cant wait to take this baby for a ride. She's looking purdy biggrin Thank you Leatherneck Simulations for keeping us in the loop.

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Disappointed to see they went with the camel-tone leather interior versus the charcoal. Shows more stains that way.

-Alternatively-

Ah yes, they properly captured the weight-saving particle-board cockpit panels used in the Turkey.


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#4095292 - 03/22/15 07:15 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
[quote=heat2151]Hello All,

From their Facebook pages. Man, I cant wait to take this baby for a ride. She's looking purdy biggrin Thank you Leatherneck Simulations for keeping us in the loop.

https://www.facebook.com/leathernecksim

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Heat2151
USN Retired salute
Mr, We could use a man like, Ronald Reagan again, those where the days".


Disappointed to see they went with the camel-tone leather interior versus the charcoal. Shows more stains that way.

-Alternatively-

Ah yes, they properly captured the weight-saving particle-board cockpit panels used in the Turkey.

winkngrin

But yes, pure plane pr0n.

Hey AB,

About the interior camel-tone leather make up. It's still early in the game and these are preliminary pictures. I would imagine that it is still subject to change. According to their feedback, they are still a long ways off before the beta release to the public. The ETA for this release is late 2015. cool To be honest I wish the beta release was by may 2015. smile



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Key Features of DCS: F-14A & B include:
- Highly Accurate 6-DOF (Degrees of Freedom) Cockpit
- Highly Accurate avionics and weapons system modelling - including the vaunted AWG-9 Radar system and AIM-54 Phoenix missiles.
- AIM-54 Phoenix Simulation with a CFD based AFM
- 'JESTER AI' - A Proprietary AI System for fully voiced, dependable and smart RIO/WSO
- Highly Accurate Flight Model - Based on Real Performance Data
- Both -A and -B Model F-14's
- Multiplayer Multicrew capability. Fly together as RIO and Pilot!
- Animated Crew Members - Closely Integrated with JESTER AI
- Highly Detailed External Model, Animations and Textures
- Highly Accurate Aircraft System and Subsystem Modelling
- One Free Theatre bundled with the Aircraft
- Full, lengthy single-player campaign
- Full Suite of Documentation, including game manual, quick start guides, and more.
- Fully voiced and interactive training missions, teaching you to fly and fight.
...and much, much more!
At Leatherneck Simulations we strongly believe in raising the bar. We have never been comfortable with adhering to the status quo.
Currently we hope to complete development and enter BETA testing on the first version of the F-14 by the end of 2015. Subject to significant change.
For the Development Team, the F-14 will represent the culmination of years of experience and dedication.
Our passion is only rivaled by our ambition and we are pushing ourselves to be better than ever before.
So strap in and enjoy the ride, and get ready to experience the definitive F-14 experience.



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#4095303 - 03/22/15 07:57 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4095319 - 03/22/15 08:30 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4095398 - 03/23/15 01:34 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4095655 - 03/23/15 06:44 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I wouldn't expect much detail to be cut, if any. Some segments off cylindrical objects and that's it in terms of what you'll notice. Most of what you see and expect to be very high (like the seats, sidewalls, etc.) is just baked normal maps.

Both the cockpit and external are well on course to perform significantly better than the MiG-21 does at this current moment.

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#4095662 - 03/23/15 06:57 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Looks incredible, a credit to the modeller indeed.

#4095721 - 03/23/15 08:34 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Cobra847]  
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Originally Posted By: Cobra847
I wouldn't expect much detail to be cut, if any. Some segments off cylindrical objects and that's it in terms of what you'll notice. Most of what you see and expect to be very high (like the seats, sidewalls, etc.) is just baked normal maps.

Both the cockpit and external are well on course to perform significantly better than the MiG-21 does at this current moment.


Will the Mig get the same treatment in the future?

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#4095783 - 03/23/15 10:03 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Cobra847]  
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Originally Posted By: Cobra847
I wouldn't expect much detail to be cut, if any. Some segments off cylindrical objects and that's it in terms of what you'll notice. Most of what you see and expect to be very high (like the seats, sidewalls, etc.) is just baked normal maps.

Both the cockpit and external are well on course to perform significantly better than the MiG-21 does at this current moment.


How is that...possible? It has essentially "twice" the cockpit...And unlike the mig, it might actually have a computer or 3, versus the abacus and iron sites we need to make due with in the BIS biggrin

(I'm pretty sure I saw a vacume tube somewhere in the cockpit...)

Color me impressed yep

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#4095821 - 03/23/15 11:32 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
Originally Posted By: Cobra847
I wouldn't expect much detail to be cut, if any. Some segments off cylindrical objects and that's it in terms of what you'll notice. Most of what you see and expect to be very high (like the seats, sidewalls, etc.) is just baked normal maps.

Both the cockpit and external are well on course to perform significantly better than the MiG-21 does at this current moment.


How is that...possible? It has essentially "twice" the cockpit...And unlike the mig, it might actually have a computer or 3, versus the abacus and iron sites we need to make due with in the BIS biggrin

(I'm pretty sure I saw a vacume tube somewhere in the cockpit...)

Color me impressed yep


We hide most of the second cockpit when you're in the other.


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#4095863 - 03/24/15 01:24 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
How is that...possible? It has essentially "twice" the cockpit...And unlike the mig, it might actually have a computer or 3, versus the abacus and iron sites we need to make due with in the BIS biggrin


Digital computers can be easier to simulate (often) compared to analog things.

And, 3D optimization is black sorcery.


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#4095888 - 03/24/15 02:20 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4096191 - 03/24/15 05:35 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
Originally Posted By: heat2151
Hello All,

From their Facebook pages. Man, I cant wait to take this baby for a ride. She's looking purdy biggrin Thank you Leatherneck Simulations for keeping us in the loop.

https://www.facebook.com/leathernecksim

NSFW... wink













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USN Retired salute
Mr, We could use a man like, Ronald Reagan again, those where the days".


Disappointed to see they went with the camel-tone leather interior versus the charcoal. Shows more stains that way.

-Alternatively-

Ah yes, they properly captured the weight-saving particle-board cockpit panels used in the Turkey.


winkngrin

But yes, pure plane pr0n.









What did you expect? You do remember the F-14 is a plane from the 1970s.

I'm hoping for bell-bottomed tweed g-suits with those patches on the elbows and naugahyde cockpit panels, perhaps?




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#4098826 - 03/29/15 06:41 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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This bad boy gonna look awesome in 3D vision!

#4098902 - 03/29/15 10:36 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: ishbu]  
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Originally Posted By: ishbu
This bad boy gonna look awesome in 3D vision!


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