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#4082018 - 02/22/15 02:56 AM Gout  
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Anyone ever get this or have had it before? I hate this stuff. I've been getting it about once a year for the past several years. I never had it before until about five years ago. I guess as you get older your body changes and things like this happen. And I always get it the same spot. It always goes straight to an area in and around my two middle toes. Extremely painful! Especially when you have to work on it all day. Just an infected, red, achy, throbbing mess. It almost produces a fever type effect in the affected area as well. Then you end up with other sprains and aches in the same foot and ankle from having to compensate for the pain by walking on the side of your foot. If I could just unscrew my right leg from the knee down I'd be okay.

I've heard that it tends to travel to where an old injury was. I'm pretty sure that I fractured that toe area in the past and like clockwork when I get it gout it goes straight to that area. And I've also heard that its causes can be different for different people. I'm convinced that for me the root cause lies in tomatoes. I love them. I have an Uncle who says he can't eat tomatoes because it gives him gout. I recently made a big batch of chili that incorporates not only lots of diced tomatoes but also tomato paste. I also hear that soda and alcohol can exacerbate the issue.

Now as far as cures go, my Dad says cherry juice is supposed to help. He used to get it bad when he was younger in his knee or foot. Often it would hit him if he twisted said knee or foot. He told me that he used to be prescribed something called colchezine by doctors that would knock gout out in a day but would also keep you in the can all day as a result. Thankfully my doctor prescribed me something called Indomethacin that I take about three times a day and it seems to really cure it for the most part in a couple of days thankfully without the diarrhea.

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#4082019 - 02/22/15 03:03 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Ah, the disease of Kings!

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#4082027 - 02/22/15 03:39 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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#4082029 - 02/22/15 03:44 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Try hydrotherapy (hot tub) It worked wonders for me after my accident.
There were guys who suffered from gout at the pool as well.

#4082034 - 02/22/15 03:53 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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The heat didn't aggravate it? I thought cold such as ice packs were better?


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#4082035 - 02/22/15 03:54 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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I Google the images because I wasn't sure what you were talking about and OUCH!

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#4082036 - 02/22/15 03:56 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Your scaring me, have had more broken toes and fingers and ribs then I can count in 53 years.
Never suffered from gout thank god, Know many who have and what horribly painful experience they
suffered through. Lately I have had hyper sensitive nerves in my small finger tip sides, like
they are being brushed by a million needles and fire just by lightly touching the side of of
my finger. Wakes me up at night moving around. Hoping its not related, since it was seriously
broken in a work accident years ago. just about lost it. Price you pay I guess.


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#4082042 - 02/22/15 04:07 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Had it a few years ago> The doctor - an old Chinese* gentleman with twinkly eyes - saw me come in and shouted happily "Ah, you have gout!" from the way I was walking. Yes, he did some tests to confirm it.
Most common cause for gout is too much protein: fish/seafood, certain beers (mostly the wheat ones) and soy products.
In my case a simple NSAID (Ibuprofen IIRC) helped - it will bring the inflammation down.


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#4082043 - 02/22/15 04:11 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Originally Posted By: Coot
The heat didn't aggravate it? I thought cold such as ice packs were better?


Cold exacerbates it, the reason it almost always strikes the lowest extremities is because it's caused by uric acid crystals precipitating out of suspension and cold fluids hold less uric acid. The feet are the coolest extremities in most people. My boss gets it bad, I think he found that a few tablespoons of raw vinegar every day keeps it at bay better than anything else. Red meats and anything with purines make it worse. I'll take my arthritic big toes any day.

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#4082047 - 02/22/15 04:22 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Yeah its pretty painful. Especially when I have 250lbs of weight on my foot and working on it. Little microscopic uric acid crystal knives digging into the joints. As painful as it can get though, I'm sure its not as bad as having broken ribs there JimK. Now I hear that's painful!


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#4082051 - 02/22/15 04:36 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Yup. Fought it for years. Painful stuff. Roast Beef would trigger it with me inside 6 hours.

Best natural remedy I ever found is Apple Cider Vinegar. Usually killed it in about 12 hours.

Now, the Doc has me on Alipurinol and I have not had an attack in years.

Funny story... first attack I ever had, the nurse practitioner thought I did something to my foot and ordered electrical shock therapy on my foot. I just about died when they turned the juice on. Never felt pain like that.

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#4082052 - 02/22/15 04:37 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_gout_james_gillray.jpg

Curious depiction of the condition.

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gout


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#4082260 - 02/22/15 07:44 PM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Originally Posted By: Coot
Yeah its pretty painful. Especially when I have 250lbs of weight on my foot and working on it. Little microscopic uric acid crystal knives digging into the joints. As painful as it can get though, I'm sure its not as bad as having broken ribs there JimK. Now I hear that's painful!


Yeah, broken ribs are painfull for sure. Makes it even worse if you have cold with it. Sneeze
and coughing feel like your ripping apart your insides. Passed out one time after sneezing.
My wife freaked out and called it in to 911 right away. Woke up with EMT`s taking my vitals.
When I told them what had happened they packed up and headed back. Since there is nothing anyone
can do for broken ribs.

Wearing the band will only give some comfort if your not moving much. I found them to painful
to wear.


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#4082454 - 02/23/15 05:24 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Desert Eagle that pic always gets me! I get gout here and there and the last time I limped around for 3 weeks and actually begged my doctor to just cut the toe off.He thought I was crazy and just kept insisting I cut out the excessive drinking instead LOL.Gout is crazy because the cure is to not live a life of excess plain and simple.My last attack was so bad because I forgot I will always have to be careful with gout and ate liver every day for a week which is the highest purine content food around.When the weekened rolled around I drank an 18 pack.I woke up saturday in tears for I knew what I had done and the suffering I would now have to deal with for who knows how long.

And on to a funny gout story King Charles I of Spain, also known as Holy Roman Emperor Charles V was a heavy gout sufferer and times of peace coincided with his gout attacks.His throne even had a built in footrest for the attacks.What I found funny about this is that people from all over Europe came to visit him and present cures for the gout.One guy told him that he needed to drink as much alcohol as he could and that would cure the gout and the King,who loved to drink in excess,took up the medication advice in earnest....and was bed ridden for a year.LMAO I just wonder what happened to that poor soul?!

#4082493 - 02/23/15 08:53 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Got my first real hit at about the same age as you. I was living in Japan at the time and I thought I'd broken a bone in my foot when I first tried to stand on it.

Had a hell of a time understanding what the doctor was telling me as the literal Japanese translation is pain wind.

I take 200mg of allupurinol daily. I rarely get an attack but when I do, I take indomethacin and it helps clear it up in a few days.


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#4082501 - 02/23/15 10:56 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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sprinkle celery seeds on a salad, used to remove uric acid deposits, may take a while smile

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#4082508 - 02/23/15 11:40 AM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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Used to get it bad!! Enough to make a grown man cry!

Was put on Puricos by the doc and after a year the attacks stopped completely. Haven't had an episode in well over 5 years.


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#4082569 - 02/23/15 02:30 PM Re: Gout [Re: Coot]  
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About a year ago had it so bad couldn't walk for 3 days and took a week before I could walk without any pain. It was on the side of my right foot just behind the small toe.

Still there as a very minor dull ache.


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Sounds pretty miserable, especially around toe joints. You never think about how much you use those all the time until you hurt them. Toe pain sucks.
Uric acid is also key in forming one of the types of kidney stones. Are you getting those as well? Might be on the way if not.


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I have taken a pill(Allopurinol) every day for twenty years and have not had gout since.

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