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AMD : We Outperform Intel by 400%+ Per Dollar With Zen 2 Powered EPYC CPUs
Fortunately [AMD has] the data to back it all up
2nd generation 32 core EPYC delivers no less than 5.6X the performance per dollar versus Intel's highest core count and fastest Platinum Xeon processors. That's 460% the performance per dollar
Intel is in effect admitting to [AMDs lead] by reducing the launch prices of its next generation Cascade Lake-X lineup in half compared to their predecessors. This is in effect a price-cut before the products even hit the shelves and it's simply a must to compete with AMD's disruptive price structure.
[AMD is] delivering double the core count per socket and thus essentially double the throughput in the same amount of physical space, an enormous advantage in servers where every square inch counts.
it's only a matter of time before the sleeping giant in Intel wakes up, and when that happens the CPU wars will go absolutely nuclear, to everyone's benefit.
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This is a "status" of AMD thread.
As AMD does better (or worse) in any area of its business, its relevant to AMD "status".
"Status" gives an indication of what AMD can afford to do going forward. For example, Is AMD making enough money to develop a highest end GPU at some point in the near future.
In other words, this thread is not limited to "current gaming" only.
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Intel CPU Shortages Were Expected To Be Ending Soon, But Major PC OEM Execs Say “They are here to stay”
According to the last update by Intel, the 14nm CPU shortage was supposed to be ending at the end of this quarter. .. from the mouths of major PC OEM execs, this shortage might last a couple more quarters, possibly even longer if they don't sort out the issue in manufacturing the CPUs.
Steve Brazier, CEO at Canalys, stated that if its a problem in architecture of the CPU itself, the timing on when the shortage will be done can't be figured out.
Intel is moving most factories away from manufacturing 14nm processors and are instead focusing on the 10nm and the 7nm for the more high-end Xeon chips for servers and cloud computing companies.
many [Intel] consumers and clients are [now] switching [to] AMD seeing as [AMD] CPUs offer more value, more cores, a modern feature set and the most important fact, that their CPUs are in stock.
AMD CPUs are doing better than I personally expected mainly because Intel has unexpectedly run into serious problems with their 10nm CPU design. The 10nm design itself has flaws that are hard to fix according to rumors and leaks (as noted in the above article and elsewhere in this thread).
Intel 7nm CPUs have been rumored to have some of the same design issues -- so may be a couple years away from true release. Considering Intel's bank account, I assumed a year ago that they would quickly fix all this. Maybe quickly was a bad assumption. But, they will fix it eventually.
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NVIDIA’s Jensen Huang Takes No.1 Spot In HBR’s Top 100 CEOs, AMD’s Lisa Su Takes 26th
Harvard Business Review has named NVIDIA's CEO, Jensen Huang, the No. 1 best performing CEO in the world for 2019. The publication had previously ranked Jensen No. 2 last year and No. 3 the year before that. AMD's Lisa Su was also present on the list, albeit down in the 26th spot...Lisa Su is also one of only 4 females on the Top 100 best-performing CEOs list (compared to 3 last year).
AMD's Lisa Su on the other hand appears to be poised to quickly climb these ranks as AMD's Zen 2 based EPYC processors roll out and catch an Intel whose 10nm is not ready yet, off-guard. Offering a competitively specced processor at a fraction of the cost, many experts agree that AMD is poised to take away market share from Intel throughout 2020 (until Intel can play catch-up with 7nm EUV).
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AMD Zen 3 Launching in 2H 2020, Zen 4 & Zen 5 CPU Cores in Development by Two Leapfrogging Teams
AMD has officially revealed that the company is currently developing the Zen 5 CPU core microarchitecture to succeed Zen 4 after 2022. Both the Zen 5 and Zen 4 core designs are being developed by two separate leapfrogging design teams, CTO Mark Papermaster confirmed.
AMD Zen 3 Landing in 2020, Zen 4 by 2022, Zen 5 post 2022
Zen 3 products are expected to remain socket compatible with all of AMD's current Zen products, which means if you already have any Ryzen system you will most likely be set for a drop-in CPU upgrade next year with a simple BIOS update
Alongside Zen 4 AMD is also expected to introduce a new platform, which very likely means a new socket on the desktop.
I like the "leapfrog" approach. AMD evidentially can now afford two alternating teams (as Intel has had for many years). Should make AMD harder for Intel to catch. Makes for better competition on price and features -- in favor of the consumers.
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Intel's first stand-alone GPU has taken the first step to actual hardware -- a Prototype.
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And Then There Were Three [Competitors]: Intel Powers On First XE dGPU [Prototype] Based On 10nm Process
The XE GPU that Intel has powered on its lab is based on Gen 12 graphics and will constitute a basic prototyping/testing platform for Intel.
Intel's CEO Bob Swan confirmed that Intel had powered on its first dedicated graphics card
The DG1 graphics card is essentially a set of training wheels for Intel to get used to the entire process of manufacturing and maintaining a dedicated graphics card
the first availability of Intel's dedicated graphics cards is going to be from very late-2020 [or later]
Based on what little is known, we should expect the first Intel 10nm GPU(s) to be readily available in 2021. Most pundits are guessing something competitive with AMD Radeon 5500 series, initially.
The picture is an "artist's concept" of how an upscale model may look when released -- not the actual card being tested.
An AMD device codenamed "ATI-102-D18802" recently passed RRA certification
The GPU in question is a [very] powerful variant of the Navi GPU (judging from the nomenclature)
an RRA certification is usually the first step in the final phase of getting a product to market. It can take .. 6 months before you finally see a polished product hitting the shelves.
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Regarding the competition's fastest CPUs:
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Intel’s Flagship Core i9-9900KS Launches On Oct 30 For $513, Features Insane 5.0GHz All Core Turbo
Featuring a 5 GHz all-core turbo across 8 cores/16 threads this will almost certainly be the fastest gaming chip around and should sell like hotcakes.
Intel is only offering a one-year warranty on this processor likely due to the fact that this is essentially a factory overclocked, highly binned chip. .You better have a good AIO cooler to get rid of all that heat
This special edition processor will be available for a limited time only
This is not a faster CPU architecture -- but it is faster -- Intel overclocked for you. An advertising point of Intel and Nvidia is that they are the "fastest". So far, both companies have done whatever it takes to stay ahead of AMD in that department.
I've previously noted that my AMD CPU "automatically" overclocks (on all cores) so long as it detects adequate cooling. However, it does not hit 5GHz -- it stays below "boost" frequency. I read that "auto-overclock" (when cooling is adequate) is a "built-in" feature of AMD CPUs now. My AMD GPU also automatically "overclocks" in that it exceeds boost frequency at times. An AMD user can overclock further if they wish.
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Nvidia's next generation 7nm GPU is due in 1st Half 2020 it is believed. Nvidia has issued some information:
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a lot of the new details you're about to read definitely fall into the rumor category, so take it with a grain of salt.
NVIDIA Ampere RTX 3000 Series GPUs Rumored to Feature Improved Rasterization & "Massive" Ray Tracing Performance Improvement Over Turing
in the vast majority of cases we've seen to date, [Nvidia Ray Tracing] performance is simply not there yet to get most people excited about Ray Tracing.
This is said to be changing with Ampere. The company is promising "massive" ray tracing performance improvements across the board with the next generation RTX 3000 series parts
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Intel's security problems are not going away
Speaking to the assembled throngs at the Open Source Summit Europe Kroah-Hartman [Linux kernel maintainer] said Intel CPU's security problems "are going to be with us for a very long time" and are "not going away".
This is not a Linux problem, any operating system [e.g. W10] faces the same problem.
"The bad part of this is that you now must choose: Performance or security. And that is not a good option. If you are not using a supported Linux distribution kernel or a stable/long term kernel, you have an insecure system", Kroah-Hartman said.
This topic keeps popping up in the industry press. Other articles referred to in this thread have said that, starting years ago, Intel deliberately designed the CPU chips to give better "instructions per clock" at the expense of security. They felt the security would be adequate. Maybe it was at first. But, hackers have "caught up". Only a new design CPU will fix things -- maybe Intel 7nm??
If one needs the software fixes, those fixes usually slow Intel down by large amounts.
As previously noted, gamers with desktop systems are probably not targets. But, companies and professionals are going to AMD for security reasons -- more money for AMD to spend on the next GPU or whatever.
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AMD’s 7nm EPYC, Ryzen, Radeon Family Leads To Highest Quarterly Revenue Since 2005
Lots of stories lately about AMD increased CPU sales and revenue. This was "more of the same". Does show that AMD now has some money to spend on "inventing" new CPUs and GPUs.
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TSMC makes AMD's CPUs and GPUs. Has already begun 3nm plant.
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TSMC’s In A Rush To Take The Lead; Commences 3nm Plant Construction In Taiwan
After 5nm chips are (hopefully) introduced next year, [customers] will refine the process for two more years before shifting to 3nm
Intel has its own fabrication plants and is still working towards 7nm. Nvidia's Samsung 7nm is coming 1st Half next year.
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[Nvidia's fabricator] Samsung is planning to launch a plethora of process nodes in the coming years, with development tracks planned for 7nm, 6nm, 5nm, 4nm, and yes, 3nm.
I don't know if Samsung's 3nm is as far along yet.
The Base Clock is 4GHz the Turbo Clock is 5GHz. Uses extra cooling, power, and guaranteed for 1 year (vs 3 years for AMD). This hand selected CPU is the one to buy for maximum Intel overclocking. It wins out over AMD in most (not all) games.
AMD "Renoir" is the company's next-generation [7nm] APU that improves iGPU and CPU performance over the current 12 nm "Picasso" APU
"Renoir" is expected to combine "Zen 2" CPU cores with an iGPU that has the number-crunching machinery of "Vega," but with the display- and multimedia-engines of "Navi."
Another source indicates they should be available to buy around the time of CES 2020. I'm interested in buying one for a relative's new PC..
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AMD CEO: Next-Generation Zen and rDNA Core Focus is Architecture, Not Process Technology – Will Transition to 5nm at the Appropriate Time
[per AMD CEO] "Going forward, we are not relying on process technology as the main driver...We will transition to the 5-nanometer node at the appropriate time...the architecture is where we believe the highest leverage is for our product portfolio going forward."
This means that the upcoming Zen and rDNA family would utilize the 7nm node for years to come but this doesn't remove 5nm from the roadmap.
We know for a fact that AMD is working on their next-generation Zen and rDNA cores.
Makes sense today because AMD will lead Intel in node size for a year or two. Moreover, the smaller nodes cost more to the customer, but only add 10 or 15 percent to clock speeds. Architecture still has substantial room for improvment (for all CPU/APU manufacturers).
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Intel Says 10nm Destkop Processors In The Works, Will Be Arriving in 2020
In a nutshell, we don't know what that really means. Is it "advertising" or will there be a meaningful product. We do know Intel 10nm has architecture problems and they will not be releasing a full lineup.
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AMD CEO: We’ll Have a Strong Ramp to Next-Gen Consoles in H2 2020; We Want Radeon Everywhere
With regards to AMD's console business, [CEO Lisa Su] expects to have a strong ramp up in the second half of 2020 as Sony's PlayStation 5 console and Microsoft's 'Project Scarlett' Xbox counterpart are both due to launch in the Holiday season, featuring AMD's Zen 2/RDNA CPU/GPU architectures.
The AMD CEO also made a point of reiterating how the goal is to get Radeon graphics 'everywhere' when discussing the recent multi-year strategic partnership with Samsung for 'high-performance mobile graphics'.
The deal with Samsung doesn't mean AMD will necessarily use their Samsung 7nm EUV process (which NVIDIA is said to be using for their next-generation Ampere GPUs),
[But, CEO Lisa Su pointedly did not rule out using Samsung for chips in the future saying] "whether you’re talking about TSMC or Samsung. Our goal is to be at the leading edge of that foundry ecosystem".
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AMD 3rd Gen Threadripper on November 7th?
AMD is set to announce three of the Threadripper SKUs: 3960X, 3970X and 3990X at the same time. Board partners will also unveil their TRX40 motherboards for the new platform.
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TRX40 motherboards for 3rd Gen Threadripper start to leak
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AMD Ryzen 4000 Series Launching Early 2020 & Zen 3 on Track, CEO Confirms
The roll-out will start out with the company's next generation Ryzen 4000 series mobile parts, which AMD plans to debut inside a plethora of new notebooks at CES in January next year.
Following mobile Ryzen 4000 series APUs will be the company's next generation Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 series desktop CPU parts [probably 2d half 2020].
AMD Zen 3 Rumored to Deliver 8%+ IPC & 200Mhz Higher Clock Speed vs Zen 2
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AMD announces Ryzen Threadripper 3960X, 3970X and Ryzen 9 3950X
The Ryzen Threadripper 3960X is a 24-core processor with a base clock of 3.8 GHz and a turbo clock of 4.5 GHz. It has 140MB of the cache. This SKU will be available for 1399 USD.
A 32-core version called Ryzen Threadripper 3970X will retail at 1999 USD. For 600 dollars more you get 8 more cores and 4MB of Cache.