#4059354 - 01/03/15 07:14 PM
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How are cat launches modelled? Well, similar to how FSX Acceleration did it..but with much more preparation involved. The Aerosoft Tomcat has a brilliant checklist pop-up that takes you through all the various stages from cold and dark to ready to launch. There are a LOT of steps, but you can get "helped" by just clicking on some of the checklist items and the sim does the check for you. You have to get up on the catapult, sweep your wings out, squat the nosegear, set the catapult, wipe the controls, advance the power to MIL, then AB (for the TF30 model engines anyway), and then you are good to go. The aerodynamics leaving the catapult are fantastic though..with some unpredictable roll-off into one wing or another. And I can't say enough about how exciting the compressor stalls are. A few minutes ago I finally managed to get all the parameters right for a Sparrow launch on a Tu-95 (yeah..I know..tough target) and I got a hit and was so excited I goosed the throttles from idle to full power really quickly (TF30 engines) and "bam..bam"..dual flameout and subsequent crash. You really had to baby those engines apparently... BeachAV8R
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#4059432 - 01/03/15 11:22 PM
Re: Pretty turkey...
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Hence the saying, If Maverick had been Flying Bs, Goose would still be Alive
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#4059448 - 01/04/15 12:13 AM
Re: Pretty turkey...
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If Maverick had been Flying Bs, Goose would still be Alive I've killed an entire squadron of pilots and RIOs... So many, in fact, that Iran has made me an honorary ace... BeachAV8R
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#4059452 - 01/04/15 12:22 AM
Re: Pretty turkey...
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Got my first Phoenix kill today - and managed to take on a few thousand pounds of fuel from the tanker. I'm worn out. <g>
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#4059459 - 01/04/15 01:05 AM
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I actually managed to refuel from the VRS Hornet tanker on one engine. I was overtaking him too fast..slammed my throttles back..and BAM..compressor stalled the right engine. Went to relight it..ITT went through the roof, BLAM...another compressor stall and a fire.. Doh! Interesting that for all the glitz and glam of the Phoenix..it never scored a kill in combat by the U.S. Navy (Iran claims to have scored kills with it..but who knows..) BeachAV8R
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#4059512 - 01/04/15 04:49 AM
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BTW - air-to-ground is very much simplified (I think). I don't know much about the "Bombcat", but with the Aerosoft bird it looks like you get CCIP for everything..so nothing exotic. I don't blame em'..they focused more on the A2A stuff... PS - Does anyone know the normal configuration the Bombcat used for delivering ordnance? Manual sweep position? Or did they drop with wings swept too? Edit - Looks like they do deliver with swept wings: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f14-mk83.jpghttp://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f14-gbu24.jpgBeachAV8R
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#4059531 - 01/04/15 06:11 AM
Re: Pretty turkey...
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LOL! The Aerosoft air to ground functions are definitely simplified. In real life the F-14 would have used the LANTIRN pod for just about any sort of ground attack (aerosoft didn't include it as a functioning item because of tac-pack limitations). The F-14D could also apparently do ground mapping the APG-71, but to my knowledge the AWG-9 on the A and B didn't have this functionality. Mind you 80% of my Tomcat knowledge is probably secondhand accounts that come from someone glancing at NAVAIR, at best. As for wingsweep, I'll let Aerosoft explain it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqCrGLz4jk#t=2m10s
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#4059557 - 01/04/15 10:19 AM
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Chris, quick question! I had also the dreaded double-compressor stall happen to me. Is there any kind of emergency generator, to keep electrical power and hydraulics on line? Didn't found one as I was frantically looking around the cockpit, with the plane going down with frozen flight controls...
Murphy's Law says, "Whatever can go wrong, will, and when you least expect it." (And, of course, we all know that Murphy was an aviator.)
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#4059667 - 01/04/15 05:32 PM
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Chris, quick question! I had also the dreaded double-compressor stall happen to me. Is there any kind of emergency generator, to keep electrical power and hydraulics on line? Didn't found one as I was frantically looking around the cockpit, with the plane going down with frozen flight controls... Yeah..I haven't read up enough on it, but I think if you keep going fast enough (400 knots) you get enough windmilling to provide some hydraulic pressure. I found I had more control authority in one model over the other (A or B)..but I honestly can't remember which one. Those compressor stalls are awesome and usually happen at the worst time. I had one yesterday that went out..then I had a fire on the restart and I actually managed a single engine carrier approach and landing. It was one of those "wow" sim moments that ranks up there... BeachAV8R
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#4059715 - 01/04/15 06:57 PM
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I had one yesterday that went out..then I had a fire on the restart and I actually managed a single engine carrier approach and landing. It was one of those "wow" sim moments that ranks up there...
Damn! Last time I had a compressor stall, it was on final on a regular airport, and the only thing I managed was to get the bird in a flat spin! Congratulations, Chris!
Murphy's Law says, "Whatever can go wrong, will, and when you least expect it." (And, of course, we all know that Murphy was an aviator.)
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#4059730 - 01/04/15 07:29 PM
Re: Pretty turkey...
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The -D's RADAR was a stepping stone to the F-15E's
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#4059873 - 01/05/15 12:47 AM
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I would not have guessed this could have been flyable..but apparently it was: Full article: HERE!BeachAV8R
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#4059884 - 01/05/15 01:38 AM
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Anyone tried MP shared cockpit? I've seen a couple reports that it works..but doesn't have full functionality. Are people hooking up via TacPack I assume?
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#4059994 - 01/05/15 02:07 PM
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I would not have guessed this could have been flyable..but apparently it was: Full article: HERE!BeachAV8R I'm more surprised that's mechanically possible. I thought the Wings had giant inter-meshed gears so that they always stayed in syc. I would think to that Mesh would need to strip...Nope, google is our friend Pretty awesome that they managed to work a fuel tank into the wing cross brace.
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#4060585 - 01/07/15 02:58 AM
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The -D's RADAR was a stepping stone to the F-15E's not quite.....The F-15Es radar was good and done before the APG-71 was developed IIRC. The F-14D's APG-71 just incorporated some digital components from the F-15E's APG-70 and allowed for a more sensitive receiver. The APG-71 could have had the F-15Es APG-70 A-G capability-Inverse synthetic aperture, sea targeting, ground moving target track, and everything but it would have been very expensive and the navy didn't pay for it. If they did, you would have seen the F-14 with a modified belly station capable of carrying AGM-65, AGM-86, AGM-84 and SLAM, as well as the HARMs it was already being tested with. A very capable tomcat indeed.
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#4060599 - 01/07/15 04:22 AM
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If they did, you would have seen the F-14 with a modified belly station capable of carrying AGM-65, AGM-86, AGM-84 and SLAM, as well as the HARMs it was already being tested with. A very capable tomcat indeed. If there was ever a great fantasy to have - it would be that Matt Wagner and crew would consider building such a fanciful beast for DCS World.. BeachAV8R
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