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#4059152 - 01/03/15 02:39 AM SimHQ PvP  
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I was wondering if there is any interest in doing some PvP among SimHQ members? This isn't for bragging rights or anything but more of a learning exercise. Kinda like Red Flag, but in space.

I realize that whatever happens, someone will lose money unless everybody fights on the freebie Sidewinder. While possible, I think it makes the exercise kind of moot because a lot of the learning how to fight in this game depends on the types of weapons used. So this might not be suitable for those still building up their credit base.

For those that are interested, I would suggest still using the freebie Sidewinder anyway, but upgrading it with different stuff like ECM, shield boosters, different weapon types, etc. It will still hurt to replace those, but at least it won't be as expensive as a Cobra or Viper. Having said that, if people want to fight using their own toys, that would be awesome as well. A Type-6 vs. a Cobra, who would win? I'd be very interested in finding out! Or a Cobra with fixed weapons vs. one with gimballed weapons, who would come out on top? If you were both in identical ships with identical loadouts, and you sneaked up on the other guy using silent running, will you be able to blast him in time before he turns around and kills you? All very interesting scenarios that is impossible to do with the AI but is perfectly do-able with a human opponent plus the learning and debrief process would be very cool as well.

Maybe if things kick off, we could add prizes or even just a bit of credit support....

Anyway, just thoughts for the moment. So, is anyone interested in some PvP for fun and learning?


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#4059189 - 01/03/15 05:20 AM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Go steal something and get a big bounty, I'll do some PvP when I think you're not paying attention biggrin


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#4059195 - 01/03/15 06:06 AM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Maybe. I haven't lost a ship yet (not since gamma), and I don't plan to give it up so easy. The Sidewinder idea is a good one. But allow me to offer another idea. How about first to = < XX% hull damage. That way no money is lost, outside of the cost in fuel and ammunition.


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#4059242 - 01/03/15 12:21 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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We need a simulated friend on friend type, where you can engage and all damage is just simulated. Simulation ends on destruction or attacking a non simulated player


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#4059250 - 01/03/15 01:07 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Brennus, that's a brilliant idea. Maybe 75% or 50% damage would be good. I guess it really depends on how fast the hull gets ripped to shreds. We could have an "abort" code for ceasefire, like "knock it off!" in air force parlance.


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#4059312 - 01/03/15 05:29 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Wouldn't whoever fires first become wanted and have a bounty attached to them in this scenario?


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#4059317 - 01/03/15 05:55 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Maybe not in an anarchy system?


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#4059323 - 01/03/15 06:06 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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I lost my brand new Viper to a human player who interdicted me. I was about to type "hey how's it going" but got blasted before I can say hello. I'm going to stick to solo for the time being until we can reliably link up.

Could definitely use some practice dogfights if it doesn't severely hurt the bank account.

#4059387 - 01/03/15 09:03 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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You can set the option on your right panel to not report crimes commited against you, I think a decent combo of everyone having that option to off and being in an anarchy system will cover the issues with fines and bounties

#4059428 - 01/03/15 11:15 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: WeaselGX]  
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Originally Posted By: WeaselGX
I lost my brand new Viper to a human player who interdicted me. I was about to type "hey how's it going" but got blasted before I can say hello. I'm going to stick to solo for the time being until we can reliably link up.

Could definitely use some practice dogfights if it doesn't severely hurt the bank account.


I would suggest move out of whatever system you're in. It seems like there are two, maybe three common starter systems but if you move away from there, the number of human pilots drop significantly.


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#4059496 - 01/04/15 03:21 AM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: WeaselGX]  
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Originally Posted By: WeaselGX
I lost my brand new Viper to a human player who interdicted me. I was about to type "hey how's it going" but got blasted before I can say hello. I'm going to stick to solo for the time being until we can reliably link up.

Could definitely use some practice dogfights if it doesn't severely hurt the bank account.


Well what laws did you break? I shoot every human I see with a bounty on them.

#4059561 - 01/04/15 10:36 AM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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I haven't seen a human player in a looong time...


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#4059722 - 01/04/15 07:13 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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I pay all my fines like a good galatic citizen so the attack felt unprovoked. I was carrying illegal cargo (rebel transmissions) but don't think that was a factor.

#4060217 - 01/05/15 11:30 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Interesting idea, but i only lost a ship in the game, and like to play with the mentality of not loosing my ship. So i'm not willing to risk that for practicing dogfight.
It would be could if FG implemented somekind of simulation weapons, where you fight like the real thing but the damage is not real, you only get displayed the consequences on the hull and shield for the hits taken. Since i doubt the they would implement somekind of "Arena Commander" on Elite. smile

About human players, i have noh ide if i ever encountered one. Don't know how you can know if the other ship is human or AI. Most of the NPC names look like possible human player.


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#4060234 - 01/06/15 01:08 AM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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If the name starts with "CMDR," that ship is human. Also, the ship will be an "empty box" in your radar as opposed to a filled-in box for AI.

As for losing a ship, well, the Sidewinder replacement is free. Or you could agree to stop shooting once the other guy has called "Knock it off!!" or when either one notices that the other is 50% hull or whatever value you decide on.


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#4061198 - 01/08/15 05:49 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: WeaselGX]  
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Originally Posted By: WeaselGX
I'm going to stick to solo for the time being until we can reliably link up.


What does this mean? TIA

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#4061213 - 01/08/15 06:06 PM Re: SimHQ PvP [Re: - Ice]  
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Being able to "see" each other in the game is still hit-and-miss, mostly miss. We could be in the same system sitting outside the same space station, but the game will put us on different "instances" so we won't see each other.


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