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#4057750 - 12/30/14 07:18 PM Re-Installing a Video Card  
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So....one day, my computer fires up and it's like 6X8 resolution.
Say's I need a video card, and downloads a Microsoft video card.
Then I check and my EVGA 670 card is toast.

Today I received a replacement.

Question is, how do I uninstall the downloaded Microsoft temporary card, and reinstall the replacement.

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I have a new EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW Signature 2GB card, just came UPS, and I have to remove the toasted one and install the new one.
I'm sure I have to remove the MS temporary display, that was automatically downloaded.
But what order, and when do I reboot, and install the drivers on the DVD?

What's the order?


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#4057761 - 12/30/14 07:33 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Should be able to shut the system down, install.new.card,.boot, it.should automatically install the drivers if they are still installed, if not re install nVidia driver package.

The ms generic display device is what windows installs when there are no.drivers availivle for the display device detected.


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#4057762 - 12/30/14 07:33 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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I'm a little confused by this statement Murph:

"Say's I need a video card, and downloads a Microsoft video card."

When you say it "downloads a Microsoft video card" do you mean it downloaded drivers for your motherboard video?

Meaning…did you have to move the video connector from your toasted video card over to the motherboard video?

Regardless…the drivers on the disc that comes with the card are usually outdated by the time you get them. I would go to EVGA's website and download the latest drivers from there. Just installed my EVGA GTX 970 a few days ago and their website seems to have the latest drivers when compared to Nvidia's site. It would probably be a good idea to completely remove the old NVIDIA drivers that were loaded with your old card before you drop the new card in.


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#4057763 - 12/30/14 07:34 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Looks like Skate beat me to it!


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#4057774 - 12/30/14 07:51 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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When I booted up with the toasted card, it was a cartoon image. It said I need a video display from MS...so it just downloaded it and rebooted with a normal display.
So I assume....it downloaded a MicroSoft display, which I can see in my 'Device Manager'.

I was wondering if I should delete that first, then install the card, and run the original DVD that came with the 670 card, I still have it.

And BTW I removed the drivers for the burnt out card....so there are none installed right now, but I have the DVD.

IIRC I had to reboot a couple times, when first putting the system together.

It's been a couple years.....

Edit; Yes, it downloaded the drivers for the MB video...I think.
But I didn't even open the case yet, didn't move the wires over.
The old burnt card is still rotting in the case...lol.....

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#4057777 - 12/30/14 07:56 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Originally Posted By: Murphy
When I booted up with the toasted card, it was a cartoon image. It said I need a video display from MS...so it just downloaded it and rebooted with a normal display.
So I assume....it downloaded a MicroSoft display, which I can see in my 'Device Manager'.

I was wondering if I should delete that first, then install the card, and run the original DVD that came with the 670 card, I still have it.

And BTW I removed the drivers for the burnt out card....so there are none installed right now, but I have the DVD.

IIRC I had to reboot a couple times, when first putting the system together.

It's been a couple years.....

Edit; Yes, it downloaded the drivers for the MB video.



You can right click and choose uninstall, then shut down.

Install new card, boot up, If you didnt uninstall the nVidia drivers they should still be present, and automatically install, after which you may or may not have to reboot again, by then all nvidia control panel abd driver related settings/options should be restored.


The drivers on the disc are likely outdated, if you need then download the newest from nvidias site.


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#4057785 - 12/30/14 08:12 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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OK...so I open the case, remove the rotting video card, plug in the new one.
Reboot.
Go to the EVGA site and d/l the newest drivers for my newly installed, working video card.
Reboot.

When do I remove the drivers for the onboard video, or whatever it is, that's running my display right now???


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#4057792 - 12/30/14 08:32 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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OK...I got it.
Remove the MoBo drivers, shut down, remove the toasted card, install the new card.
Reboot and go to the Nividia or EVGA site and d/l the newest drivers for the 670 card. {as I have deleted the old drivers from the system when the old card failed. I need drivers.}
After d/l'ing the new drivers,
Reboot.


Is that it?

Or should I D/L the new drivers first, as I don't have 'any' for the new card.
Then remove the MoBo drivers, shut down, remove the old card, install the new card, and reboot.

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#4057831 - 12/30/14 09:54 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Download the installer package first, and save the install file to the desktop
just in case windows comes back up i. vga mode (640x480), cuz Navigating newer websites at that resolution will get frustrating quickly.

You dont have to uninstall the windows generic driver as it will simply put it back until you.install your own drivers.

So:
Goto evga's site, download driver package, save to desktop,
Shut down,
Remove defective card,
Place new card in slot, connect any power cables, connect display to new card.

Boot Windows,
Once Windows is done loading it may install a generic driver, just let it for.the time.being
After everythin is.done loading, run the driver.installer.package as a admi. (Right.click, run as admin).

Go through the process, when finished reboot.

Done

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#4058343 - 12/31/14 11:38 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Well, as usual....things didn't go as planned.

First off, they sent me a different replacement card.
They sent a EVGA 770 instead of the EVGA 670.
So the drivers weren't correct.

I uninstalled the drivers 'before' I put the new card in, but somehow it found them as soon as I booted up, and reinstalled them. It actually worked with the old 670 drivers!
I had to remove them again, and then tried to install the correct drivers for the 770 card I had downloaded, but they wouldn't install.
'Error'.
So I rebooted and tried again, and it did install them.

Now I have the correct drivers, the card is working, but the fan bearings sound real loud to me.
It's almost a 'squeak', like a bad bearing.

But the card works....so I'll keep it, and be sure to 'buy' the extended warranty, cause I got a feeling.... wink

Thanks for the help Skatezilla.... smile I appreciate it very much.

I'm looking for a comparison between the old EVGA 670 card, and the replacement EVGA 770 card.
Wonder if they sent me a better one, or a slower one?

I haven't tested it yet, the fans squeak too much!...lol....I don't have much faith in it.


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#4058457 - 01/01/15 09:35 AM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Murph check the fan to make sure nothings is touching it. Make sure the fan area isnt squished down a bit. I seem to remember having a loud fan on a graphics card a few years ago and it turned out the fan was touching the top housing of the card.


As for the 770 vs 670 I think its a minute difference, like 100MHZ core speed difference.


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#4058535 - 01/01/15 03:28 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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I don't think so.
I have a large case, the card is not crowded or touching anything.
I spun both fans, gently, when I installed it. They didn't touch the housing.

I've read some complaints from people who said the card was 'loud'.

I can only hope it's just that, and not bad bearings.

Maybe I should open it up, and take another look before I run it too long.
Hate to RMA another one. Just doesn't sound right.


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#4058536 - 01/01/15 03:29 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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770 is a rebadged 680 w/ some voltage and clock tweaks, it's an upgrade.

nVidia's driver packages usually have a unified structure, the package should contain drivers for most of the GPUs from the last 8 years.


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#4058539 - 01/01/15 03:36 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Good to hear!
Just hope it lasts longer than my warranty. wink

I'm afraid to run it with that 'squeak'....
Gonna keep an eye on the temp.
Maybe open the case again and peek at the fans.
But when it runs, the fans move, they push in on the axle/shaft, so you really can't be sure.


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#4058996 - 01/02/15 07:33 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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GTX 770 is definitely the better card. Here is Anandtech's benchmark comparison between the 2 cards:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1037?vs=1349


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#4059015 - 01/02/15 08:10 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Thanks Walter! Appreciate that.
I noticed the 'noise level' should be lower on the new 770, but it's certainly NOT.
So I'm sure the fan is rubbing on something.

I'm afraid to run it now.
Gotta take it apart again, and find out what's 'squeaking'.
Sent back the old one today.

This one runs everything, like your link said, much better.
It's just that the fan must be rubbing on the housing or something, to make the squeaking noise.
It's really loud.....

Yep, gotta open the case and take a look at it again, or I'll be sending this one back too.
Found out it's $25 just to ship it, ground, one way!
Stuff like that 'shocks' us old guys.....lol..... wink

But it sure beats paying for a new one, again smile


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#4059021 - 01/02/15 08:36 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Maybe look into replacing the fan with a closed loop water cooling rig... Or maybe there is a 3rd party aftermarket cooling fan that performs better.

You shouldn't have to do that with a new card of course, but if you like it except for the fan situation, it might be worth a look... especially when that shipping cost would get you a good start on a better cooling rig.

#4059025 - 01/02/15 08:49 PM Re: Re-Installing a Video Card [Re: Murphy]  
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Yeah, I have to do something.
Running it like it is, will just burn it out.
I'll take it apart tonight, if I get time.
Right now, I'm going up on the roof and cleaning the flue, or 'nothing' in this house will 'overheat'...lol...

Home maintenance comes first. Gotta keep the 'wood burner' going, in Michigan....going down to 3F tomorrow night, with snow, and I don't want to be up on a snow covered roof then.
Free heat, with wood.

Right now it's 21F, so I'll clean it up while it's dry, and 'warm'...lol....


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