#4029183 - 10/30/14 04:43 AM
The next Terminator- Yawn.
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POPS Come with me if you want to...go to the pool. I'll be back... to pick you up from ballet at 5. Teminator: "Sarah Connah, vhy is dere dish-soap in my Uzi 9-millimeter?!" Sarah: "You said you were going to show me how to clean a weapon." <Audience laughter mixed with choked sobs of former fans> ...sigh.
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#4029250 - 10/30/14 11:48 AM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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Why are we getting these tired, increasingly desperate reboots and warps when there are talented writers with new and different ideas and scripts floating around?
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#4029253 - 10/30/14 11:55 AM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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Why are we getting these tired, increasingly desperate reboots and warps when there are talented writers with new and different ideas and scripts floating around? Because the major studios are scared of risks and prefer to stick with franchises that have a strong brand recognition with audiences. There are some exceptions of course.
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#4029283 - 10/30/14 12:42 PM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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If what it says in the article is accurate, people will hate it just because it's different. It may or may not be a good film, but its Judgement Day will have arrived before the film's release!
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#4029299 - 10/30/14 01:05 PM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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Doctor Who and a guy that looks like MacGruber? I know the guy in the other cover has been in some movies, but he just looks like a thug. Interesting GoT tie in with Sarah Connor now being played by Emilia Clarke and formerly by Lena Headey in TSCC. Oh, and this sucks. Should've just continued the last movie and made the next one better. I actually liked Terminator Salvation other than some cheese moments. "John Connor is on the ground!" LOL After watching T3 on a bunch of dull tv nights, I've come around to actually liking that story more than T2. No annoying kid, no attempts at Terminator humor and it actually advances the story. Robert Patrick was the only good part of T2, that and the cutting edge effects for the time. They killed Pvt Vasquez again too! The Terminator smiles on the T2 poster too, it just doesn't look like a Terminator photobomb.
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#4029343 - 10/30/14 02:19 PM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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The entire mainstream action-oriented genre of Hollywood films is tired and uninspirerd and not worth the time. And that includes all these freaking comic book movies. Enough already. Though I understand why the entertainment machine keeps churning them out. Lazy, easy. McDonalds Happy Meals. It's a rarity when one is actually worth watching, like Dark Knight. The thing that puzzles me is why people who are intelligent adults still lap the, up. There's maybe a handful of directors like Chris Nolan who make AAA action movies that doent insult the intelligence of a grown adult.
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#4029347 - 10/30/14 02:21 PM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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There's maybe a handful of directors like Chris Nolan who make AAA action movies that doent insult the intelligence of a grown adult. David Fincher is another one I would include in that very small group.
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#4029348 - 10/30/14 02:25 PM
Re: The next Terminator- Yawn.
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Don't think I'd call them lazy and easy, certainly not from a production standpoint. That's why we have romantic comedies--rinse and repeat. At least the conflicts are something a little bit unique as far as movies go. Personally, the only Nolan Batman flick I really liked was Batman Begins. The others seemed more like a badly done 24 copycat. Some good performances, but they lost the quality of being "enjoyable".
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#4029362 - 10/30/14 02:50 PM
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They are doing the same B.S. they did for the new Star Trek Franchise.
Apparently that B.S. worked from the perspective of Paramount since both JJ Abrams films did great at the box office.
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#4029366 - 10/30/14 03:10 PM
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Only because we're that starved for ST. Put that effort into something that continued things properly and it would do at least as good IMO. They didn't HAVE to use the TOS characters and reboot, they could've picked up right after their era, created likable new characters and still worked in some cameos. I'd like Pine's character a lot more if he wasn't trying to be Kirk. You'd hardly even have to change the first movie story, just the names, and of course NOT blow up Vulcan.
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#4029401 - 10/30/14 04:14 PM
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Lets not forget: hollywood loves its necrophilia
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#4029404 - 10/30/14 04:17 PM
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There's maybe a handful of directors like Chris Nolan who make AAA action movies that doent insult the intelligence of a grown adult. David Fincher is another one I would include in that very small group. Agreed. I'd add Sam Mendes to that list. James Cameron and George Lucas the other hand, should have their screenwriting privileges revoked. They've done serious damage to establishing the baseline of what passes as writing quality/intelligence in mainstream SciFi. Just how low could you possibly set the bar?
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#4029433 - 10/30/14 05:24 PM
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#4029446 - 10/30/14 05:40 PM
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I didn't really like Terminator 2, I never considered anything to be a proper successor to the first Terminator, I don't consider it a series, or at least a good series.
The first film was practically a low budget B movie but somehow a good film nonetheless. The second film has a big budget uses kids (which tends to turn me off) and actually humanizes Schwarzenegger, even makes a joke of the character and goes off track onto a different formula. The film isn't really that dark at all, despite offering a moral dilemma whether or not to proactively kill the creator of Skynet before the events actually take place in the future.
Remember John Connor's dream with piles of human skulls being crushed by machines? That's what a next Terminator episode should look like. We never really got anything like that. Agreed. The first one was more like a horror movie even, like a Friday the 13th with a scifi twist. A little gore, being pursued by a zombie like creature with flesh torn, then a skeleton. They lost that factor. Being chased by mercury in T2 isn't scary.
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#4029486 - 10/30/14 07:23 PM
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The first film was practically a low budget B movie but somehow a good film nonetheless..
Not practically, it WAS a low budget B movie. They were all unknowns at the time, Cameron had only directed the Piranha sequel and the budget was really low. Like Alien, it was a B movie with just the right tricks pulled off to make it appear grander than it was, that then spawned an entire franchise of films and tie-ins (comics, TV, games) and made it Too Big to Die. The Jedi Master
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