#4015482 - 09/28/14 12:17 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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Yeah, the issues I had with end-grain was that I had to reduce it in height - the tops of the legs were a little proud of the frame that the tabletop sat on. Turns out the best way to do that is to plane it, and my plane was a little dull; something neat I found on the interweb was that if you sanded the edges of the wood so that the end that you want to plane is chamfered or bevelled, you run a much lower chance of splitting wood off the edges. Still hard work, and keeping it flat is also a bit tricky.
The varnish was from a brand new tin; Watery white stuff which I guess is water soluble since you don't need turps to wash the brush, just soapy water. The finish isn't noticably tacky per sé, but when I put, say, my laptop on it, when I take my laptop off the rubber feet "stick" to the table so you need to pull it off a bit. If you lift off my leather screwdriver pouch, you can hear it "unsticking" from the table.
Is there a wax or oil finish I should put over the varnish, or is it just a case of "it's not properly dry"?
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#4015518 - 09/28/14 02:05 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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Is there a wax or oil finish I should put over the varnish, or is it just a case of "it's not properly dry"?
That sounds a little strange that it is still tacky days later,should have dried by now so not too sure about that one,there are so many different types of sealers and protection coats you can apply but usually varnish hardens when dry,giving you a nice smooth finish.You could maybe ask at your local hardware shop or the place you bought it for a little advice on the product. Mick.
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#4015523 - 09/28/14 02:37 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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Interesting reading on end grain finishes, I am an occasional dabbler at woodworking.
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#4015593 - 09/28/14 05:49 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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is it still tacky allover or just in spots?
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#4015598 - 09/28/14 06:01 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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I refinished a bar that was given to me by my father in law a couple years back. It was in rough shape, the clear coat was peeling and I had to sand it down to bare wood. I used a rough sanding paper to get the old finish off than gradually changed to finer paper before applying finish. I used steel wool to smooth out the finish before applying polyurethane. After that it was steel wool then polyurethane rinse and repeat until I got the mirror glass finish.
Whats the temperature when your applying the varnish? Are you doing it in a damp place? It shouldn't take more than more than 8 hours to dry usually.
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#4015605 - 09/28/14 06:15 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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Saying that it's tacky isn't totally correct - if you run a finger over it, it's smooth and with no tackiness. It's just that if you rest something on it, if you leave it there for a little while or apply pressure on it, it kinda sticks to it a bit, as if it has a bit of a static charge. With rubber stubs on the bottom of my laptop, it seems to stick a bit more.
The temp when applying the varnish was probably around 17-18 degrees C; I wouldn't say it was unduly damp, but I was doing most of the finishing work in the evenings, and the temps are starting to come down a bit, so the RH may be around 60%.
The stuff I'm using is supposed to dry in an hour. On the table top, I generally did one side, gave it two hours, turned it over and did the other side, then left it overnight and went through the sand/varnish again in the evening after work.
It's not "still drying" tacky, but anything that's rubber with a bit of weight on it will stick to it if left for a little while.
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#4015614 - 09/28/14 06:37 PM
Re: Any Woodworkers Here?
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Oh ok thats a big difference you might just have to add felt feet to the things you put on it, especially if they're leaving a mark.
I should add that nothing sticks to my bar top like you describe but it could be down to the product used. I used Miniwax brand polyurethane.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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