#3997095 - 08/17/14 05:56 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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That's awesome - nothing like putting the truth behind the press release.
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#3997285 - 08/18/14 04:06 AM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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To be honest, I'm not sure why it would take 72 hours (other than repaint) to get it combat ready.
Hang some pylons and TER/MERs, hang bombs/missiles, load the gun, and yes you're going to need to hang at the very least a centerline (preferably 2 wing) fuel tank(s). Some ops checks involved after hanging the pylons and TER/MERs and a leak and transfer check of the fuel tanks. I bet this could be done within 12-16 hours (again, other than repaint).
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#3997438 - 08/18/14 02:06 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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To be honest, I'm not sure why it would take 72 hours (other than repaint) to get it combat ready.
Hang some pylons and TER/MERs, hang bombs/missiles, load the gun, and yes you're going to need to hang at the very least a centerline (preferably 2 wing) fuel tank(s). Some ops checks involved after hanging the pylons and TER/MERs and a leak and transfer check of the fuel tanks. I bet this could be done within 12-16 hours (again, other than repaint). I think they strip some other combat-needed stuff out of the display birds. Not sure if it's for safety or security or what, but I recall reading that somewhere. For one thing, do they even keep the radars in there, or do they just have ballast? The Jedi Master
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#3997505 - 08/18/14 04:05 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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F-16 takes off in combat without the additional fuel tanks? That's a first... Indeed, I have never ever ever seen an F16 with a combat load not have a centerline or wing tanks.
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#3997564 - 08/18/14 06:01 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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F-16 takes off in combat without the additional fuel tanks? That's a first... Indeed, I have never ever ever seen an F16 with a combat load not have a centerline or wing tanks. F-16 was designed from the outset to fly to the combat zone with tanks and jettison them - kept the size and weight right down and high potential of having to fight its way in.
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#3997569 - 08/18/14 06:09 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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To be honest, I'm not sure why it would take 72 hours (other than repaint) to get it combat ready.
Hang some pylons and TER/MERs, hang bombs/missiles, load the gun, and yes you're going to need to hang at the very least a centerline (preferably 2 wing) fuel tank(s). Some ops checks involved after hanging the pylons and TER/MERs and a leak and transfer check of the fuel tanks. I bet this could be done within 12-16 hours (again, other than repaint). I think they strip some other combat-needed stuff out of the display birds. Not sure if it's for safety or security or what, but I recall reading that somewhere. For one thing, do they even keep the radars in there, or do they just have ballast? The Jedi Master Not sure ATM, but I think both USAF and USN Modify the Demo birds. USN Removes some components and adds the smoke generator, fuel pump, and change the stick force, etc etc.
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#3997767 - 08/19/14 03:06 AM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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I know I saw it somewhere not long ago, but can't find it now. I saw a post somewhere recently on another military forum where they showed a regular USAF F-16C fly with the Thunderbirds because the Tbird spares were broke...or just to show it could be done.
AFAIK, other than smoke generators, the Tbird F-16Cs only remove weapons pylons to fly "slick". I'll hit up a buddy of mine in the next couple of days at work who used to be ground crew for the Tbirds.
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#3997902 - 08/19/14 01:08 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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Well, as this instance showed they always had the requirement that they be capable of being readied for combat in a couple of days, so they can't change out TOO much equipment or it would be impossible under realistic (ie non-NASCAR pit crew speed) conditions.
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#3998741 - 08/21/14 05:42 AM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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Talked to my buddy at work who worked Thunderbirds in the USAF. He says they take out the gun and ammo drum and put an oil drum with a line to the exhaust for the smoke. That's the only modification other than removing the pylons. So now I can see it taking a little while to get back to combat ready. Removing the oil/smoke system and then reinstalling the gun takes over a day.
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#3998813 - 08/21/14 12:37 PM
Re: the F-16 Thunderbird that suited up for combat
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Oh, so they keep the radars in.
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